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re: Video of Possible Shooter Being Arrested wearing Saints Hat
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:25 pm to ODP
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:25 pm to ODP
pellet is subsonic, video shows crack of a sonic round. I would not shoot rabbits with a pellet gun at 150 yards.
243, 223, 22 swift, 22-250, are light rounds that could be successful. If I was going to do that to a deer 30-06, 7 mm, 300 savage, would be appropriate
243, 223, 22 swift, 22-250, are light rounds that could be successful. If I was going to do that to a deer 30-06, 7 mm, 300 savage, would be appropriate
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:25 pm to Deuces
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He was complying and not resisting while already cuffed.
Perfect, I didn’t say that they weren’t beating the shite out of him enough for me, I said they were too happy. Female cop is joking and laughing while her colleague bends down to search the bag.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:25 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Hatby DownSouthJukin
Lol no I have multiple suppressors and we have actually tested different ones from different angles and distances. Other guys brought their suppressors to see who was quietest and that shot was ?? unsuppressed
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:26 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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Someone else in another thread claimed to be a Army Sniper said it was a suppressed shot Lol they are full of shite
How would anyone tell if it was suppressed or not from a wound?
The only possible tell would be anyone smart shooting suppressed would go for subsonic which would change the the acoustic “snap” and reduce muzzle velocity, but it wouldn’t immediately be obvious based on the wound.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:28 pm to DownSouthJukin
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My guess is, and has been, that it was a suppressed 5.56.
What makes you think suppressed?
The acoustics can be weird in an area with buildings depending on where you are in relation to a shot.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:28 pm to IAmNERD
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Its a Ruger Impact Elite sold at Walmart. It even has the little black insert with the Ruger logo on the stock.
Certainly looks like it. As I said in my post that you did not quote-many pellet guns are made to look like suppressed rifles.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:29 pm to DownSouthJukin
Looks like a break barrel possibly Anschutz.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:30 pm to DownSouthJukin
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As I said in my post that you did not quote-many pellet guns are made to look like suppressed rifles.
Nobody was trying to call you out. I was simply pointing out the Ruger logo that you can see on the gun in the video if you go frame by frame.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:32 pm to LSUbest
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Looks like a break barrel possibly Anschutz.
There's a Ruger logo with the little black insert on the stock. You can see it when you pause the video while the cop is holding it.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:35 pm to John Barron
Nope, they are too casual in that arrest.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:35 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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Lol no I have multiple suppressors and we have actually tested different ones from different angles and distances. Other guys brought their suppressors to see who was quietest and that shot was ?? unsuppressed
I've shot several, primarily using 9mm, 7.62, 300BO, and 5.56.
The two quietest? 9mm through a Beretta 92FS and 300BO (sub) through a 10.5" AR (I don't have a bolt 300BO). Both were movie quiet (action did not cycle enough to throw the spent casing as I had them set).
The shot from the video (none of us were there) sounded like a 5.56 through a suppressor. It had a crack, meaning it broke the sound barrier, but it was a dampened crack. Now-that could have been the quality of the audio we were hearing, but to me it sounded like a suppressed 5.56.
This is my opinion. You have yours, and you're welcome to it. Maybe we can go shoot together one day.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:37 pm to tide06
quote:The speculation is from the sound of the shot, not from the visuals of Charlie's wound.
How would anyone tell if it was suppressed or not from a wound?
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:38 pm to Ryan3232
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The speculation is from the sound of the shot, not from the visuals of Charlie's wound.
Thanks.
Not watching that video again to hear it.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:39 pm to tide06
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Would the trauma be visible like it was on camera though?
I think a 5.56 of a heavier grain could have visible trauma, as I think the wound patterns are similar to higher caliber bullets but I’ve never seen a larger caliber wound in person to compare. Also I could be speaking out of my arse, as bullet wound injury patterns is not something I see very often.
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With a deer I’ve seen massive internal blood pooling from a shot like that, but I’ve never seen an “explosion” beyond a pint mist.
That leads me to suspect it transected the entirety of the carotid sheath, which would contain the carotid artery, internal jugular, and the vagus nerve. If his head was positioned at the correct angle, the bullet would only have to transect the muscle belly of the sternocleidomastoid to reach the carotid sheath and then the cervical vertebrae. It might just be the combination of where the bullet entered and that Kirk’s head was positioned in a way which would have provided the least amount of protection for the vasculature in that area.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:39 pm to tide06
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How would anyone tell if it was suppressed or not from a wound
Has nothing to do with the would it's the sound report from the rifle. There is a substantial difference in suppressed and unsuppressed even with supersonic rounds.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:44 pm to DownSouthJukin
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I've shot several, primarily using 9mm, 7.62, 300BO, and 5.56.
The two quietest? 9mm through a Beretta 92FS and 300BO through a 10.5" AR (I don't have a bolt 300BO). Both were movie quiet (action did not cycle enough to throw the spent casing as I had them set).
The shot from the video (none of us were there) sounded like a 5.56 through a suppressor. It had a crack, meaning it broke the sound barrier, but it was a dampened crack. Now-that could have been the quality of the audio we were hearing, but to me it sounded like a suppressed 5.56.
This is my opinion. You have yours, and you're welcome to it
I'm not being rude or at least trying not to be. I own and shoot different caliber is suppressors and reload for both subsonic and supersonic. 30 cal, 22 cal and rimfire. I actually reload super and subs for my 300 blackout. Myself and others at our range ( not a backyard but an actual range where qualifications and matches are held) we have videod from behind the burm and conex containers where people have shot their rifles and that's an un suppressed rifle.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:48 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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I'm not being rude or at least trying not to be.
I'm not taking that you are. We can have civil discussion on this side of the aisle. Even if we throw in a few cuss words or name-calling.
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I own and shoot different caliber is suppressors and reload for both subsonic and supersonic. 30 cal, 22 cal and rimfire. I actually reload super and subs for my 300 blackout. Myself and others at our range ( not a backyard but an actual range where qualifications and matches are held) we have videod from behind the burm and conex containers where people have shot their rifles and that's an un suppressed rifle.
Your experience is certainly different than mine, and sounds more "professional" in nature. You may be correct, and you have your opinion while I have mine. And yours may be correct. Or mine may be correct. Maybe we can shoot together one day. If I am wrong, I'll buy the first (and least expensive) case of 5.56.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:48 pm to crazy4lsu
Someone suggested a ricochet off a vest.
If it were a flattened round that was redirected to his carotid as a secondary impact a smaller caliber round could’ve looked much bigger than it was with enough remaining velocity to cause that wound but I’m also not an expert beyond hunting.
If it were a flattened round that was redirected to his carotid as a secondary impact a smaller caliber round could’ve looked much bigger than it was with enough remaining velocity to cause that wound but I’m also not an expert beyond hunting.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:53 pm to IAmNERD
It does look like that Ruger.
.22 caliber air rifle.
.22 caliber air rifle.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:55 pm to tide06
Yeah that is true. Just a wild video. I think that if he had a carotid artery transection, the chances of him surviving would be low even if he was already in an operating theater. It’s so incredibly sad.
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