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re: Venezuela: a Strategic Stronghold for Hezbollah and Iran

Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:31 am to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:31 am to
America First / MAGA people have been arguing for 15 years in favor of non intervention in wars and defense postures that don’t benefit the US.

The underlying premise of that stance is the idea that with the US navy being an unassailable force and two oceans to cross none of our strategic opposition pose a threat to us domestically outside of fiscal, missile or internet risks.

That premise is indefensible if China has major western hemispheric partners like Venezuela, Panama or believe it or not Canada who at one point was allowing Chinese troops to train and be stationed within their borders.

If we don’t have a clean western hemisphere we have to waste major resources to account for those considerations in the event of an invasion of Taiwan because it’s not a US-China conflict it’s the US vs BRICS with the longer term threat of Venezuela becoming a hostile version of Saudi Arabia with near infinite resources working against our interests in the region.

So bottom line, I don’t personally nor do I think even the MAGA non-NATO cheerleading generals believe that we can allow Brazil, Panama and Venezuela to go full China alliance without conceding to China the idea that they will be the new global hegemony while we’re shunted back to a role where we are only really a regional power in North America.

If we keep China out of South America the likeliest scenario has the world becoming bipolar with China running Asia outside of Japan and the US squabbling with the EU/NWO over whether the Klaus Schwab’s get their one world government vision or not.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8934 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:47 am to
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Do you believe allowing Islamic terrorists to live and train in our own hemisphere is a threat?


Would the same legal rationale for blowing up drug boats (FTO, imminent threat to U.S.) apply to taking out Hezbollah training camps?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71836 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:50 am to
Venezuela: The Perfect Boogeyman
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:00 pm to
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Margarita Island has emerged as the "center of gravity" for Hezbollah operations in the Western Hemisphere.


It's a fact that Margarita Island has been this way since well before 9-11.

IHOGA that as early as 1999, US citizens and military personnel were warned not to go to Margarita Island for the reasons above. Locals at the time would know not to go there.

So this Venezuela issue been festering in our own hemisphere for a quarter century when GWOT was the golden calf.
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
282 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Venezuela: a Strategic Stronghold for Hezbollah and Iran


Is this the new muh weapons of mass destruction for the zoomers?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71836 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:01 pm to
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I think all this Venezuala hoopla is more about Russia and China that Venezuala, they're big buddies with them, nothing China would liker more than to get more of there people in our neighborhood

That's the thing, though......Donald and crew have allowed fentanyl — and the associated National Health Emergency and WMD Fent Edition(tm) — to take the lead on this because of the emotional draw it has on the American people. Well, if we are focusing on fentanyl and China is the real enemy, we have one hell of a lot bigger beef with Mexico than Venezuela. China is heavily involved with Mexico and the manufacture of fentanyl. They supply the overwhelming amount of precursor chemicals, most all of the equipment needed, and hell......they actually send chemists from China to Mexico to help set up the super labs (this is acknowledged by Donald's own DEA). China and Mexio are woven tightly together, and are a much more dangerous duo than Venezuela.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23620 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:02 pm to
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I don’t personally nor do I think even the MAGA non-NATO cheerleading generals believe that we can allow Brazil, Panama and Venezuela to go full China alliance without conceding to China the idea that they will be the new global hegemony while we’re shunted back to a role where we are only really a regional power in North America.


In other words, Empire Today, Empire Tomorrow, Empire Forever! The problem here is the current fiscal trajectory is simply unsustainable:



At some point, gravity is going to take over and it is not going to be a soft-landing for any of us. It indeed increasingly seems fiscal collapse is the goal.

And when that happens, we will end up living in some form of a WEF socialist dystopia anyhow. COVID-1984 was indeed simply a test run of what is to come:






This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 12:04 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20629 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:51 pm to
A full abandonment of what you call empire and what I call the 20th century status quo would immediately trigger an economic crash via the end of the petro dollar destabilizing our ability to finance government debt and throw the entire Monroe doctrine which is the central premise of US defense going back to the 1800s into the air.

What’s your proposal for defense moving forward?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19210 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:00 pm to
I'm not trusting JewFeed news as the impetus to start another war. It seems like everything that we're doing at this point is based on "intelligence" from Mossad that, despite Israel and Gaza being surveillance states, "missed" October 7th.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15058 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:13 pm to
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I'm glad to see a thread on this.


I posted a doc on this about a month ago.

It was well received.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23620 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:30 pm to
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What’s your proposal for defense moving forward?


Abolish the Fed.

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20629 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:58 pm to
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Abolish the Fed.

I agree with this.

Doesn’t prevent our system from crashing absent a credit jubilee, switch to an asset backed currency and balanced budget, all of which I would like to see done asap.

It also doesn’t keep China from becoming the British empire of the next century while dominating us economically, politically and militarily.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
31064 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:53 pm to
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nothing China would liker more than to get more of there people in our neighborhood


But it’s ok to put NATO in Ukraine on Russia’s border. A little hypocritical by most of you guys.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15058 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 12:12 am to
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A little hypocritical by most of you guys.


Most of us aren't out to destroy America.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23620 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:46 am to
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It also doesn’t keep China from becoming the British empire of the next century while dominating us economically, politically and militarily.



There are no white hats in this sordid little drama but instead varying shades of gray. What we are currently witnessing are currency wars between competing yet equally corrupted fiat currency empires.

The UniParty® exists to promote the continuation of the Deep State above all other concerns. And the Deep State exists to promote the continuation of our nation’s print on demand monetary system above all other concerns.

1913 was an annus horribilis in American history. The Federal Reserve was established, a progressive income tax was initiated and the 17th Amendment led to the direct election of Senators instead of their appointment by state legislators, effectively killing the doctrine of States’ rights.

Woodrow Wilson also assumed office. All these various elements coalesced to create a massive shift of centralized power to Washington D.C.

It has been a downhill slide into tyranny ever since. Nothing fundamentally changes until this nation returns to sound monetary policies.

This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 7:48 am
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