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re: Vance On Strikes In Yemen: ‘We are making a mistake…’

Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by Drizzt
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:00 pm to
The Houthis have attacked US Navy ships. frick these guys. Bomb them back to the Stone Age then leave. The mistake is always rebuilding the country and expecting that animals can run a democracy.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:01 pm to
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They can CLAIM anything they want. But was there a credible threat to any of our Navy ships? Firing off rockets that don't come within 100 miles, is IMO, not a credible threat worthy of retaliation. It's sabre rattling and propaganda on the Houthis part.


Whatever the case, lobbing missiles into the deserts of Yemen ain’t doing a damn thing to protect international shipping lanes.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:01 pm to
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Bomb them back to the Stone Age then leave.


They already are there.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:02 pm to
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Where do you idiots come from?


This particular idiot comes from a time when we were fed a bunch of BS about patriotism, gung-ho US military might and SAVING FREEDOM from a bunch of camel jockeys 30 years ago.

I believed it then.

Not so sure I do now.


But what the heck, they hit our ships, weapons free. Turn 'em into mist.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:07 pm to
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So the guy is hiding he has cancer and just clocks out for several days without notifying the president while running attacks.




Trump did more than simply criticize Austin. He criticized Biden for getting involved in the conflict in Yemen.
Posted by Sofaking2
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:08 pm to
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They have been attacking US flagged ships

Then it’s a go. That’s the line. Mess with the US and you will get f’ed up
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:11 pm to
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He criticized Biden for getting involved in the conflict in Yemen.


That's not how I took it.

I interpreted the post to mean that if Biden hadn't been a feckless, dickless, isolationist pussy we wouldn't have to be bombing them AGAIN.

Which was true then and now.

As I have posted many times before, this isn't difficult. It's basic 3rd grade playground bully psychology.

If they sense weakness or a reluctance to engage, they will attack. And they will do so, increasingly, until they are stopped. They are like children in that they will press forward and test until you show them the limit.

All of the Huckster Carlson populist isolationist nonsense just makes it worse.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 10:12 pm
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:20 pm to
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Trump did more than simply criticize Austin. He criticized Biden for getting involved in the conflict in Yemen.


Yes criticized Biden for Afghanistan and Iran.

He did that a lot actually. As noted by what you posted.





This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:22 pm to
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All of the Huckster Carlson populist isolationist nonsense just makes it worse.


Each to his own. More and more Americans of all political persuasions seem to find it preferable to being fed the same neocon/neolib B.S. that keeps the United States locked in a permanent state of Middle Eastern warfare.

Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:38 pm to
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Each to his own. More and more Americans of all political persuasions seem to find it preferable to being fed the same neocon/neolib B.S. that keeps the United States locked in a permanent state of Middle Eastern warfare.



Protecting shipping lanes is not the same as invading countries.

It’s that simple really.


I would like it too if we scaled back in Europe. But if they need help protecting shipping lanes in the future, we can do that without having 30k military personnel in places like Germany.


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:39 pm to
This is already yesterday’s news. I knew this would be a snooze fest once I heard that he was bombing a few goat herders.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:40 pm to
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Yes criticized Biden for Afghanistan and Iran.

He did that a lot actually. As noted by what you posted.




Yes. Yes he did. And rightly so. And Trump likewise criticized Biden’s bombing strategy in Yemen. Which Trump now seems to emulate.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 10:41 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:49 pm to
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Bomb them back to the Stone Age then leave


Aren't they already there
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:53 pm to
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lobbing missiles into the deserts of Yemen ain’t doing a damn thing to protect international shipping lanes.


Short of taking our ships out of said lanes, what's the alternative?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:53 pm to
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goat herders.


Humpers
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:59 pm to
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More and more Americans of all political persuasions seem to find it preferable to being fed the same neocon/neolib B.S. that keeps the United States locked in a permanent state of Middle Eastern warfare.


That's because more and more Americans are becoming enthralled with the entertainment of conspiracy porn populism and more and more Americans are too young to remember anything about WWII.

Not that that was the only time we've been stubbornly resistant to common sense regarding foreign policy. Pretty much the last 80 years or so have really been the only time we haven't pretended that basic playground bully psychology can be safely ignored.

It worked o.k. until WWI, but only because Britain played the world police role that the US has played after WWII. They protected shipping lanes and kept the world's Bad Actors from flexing too much.

Sorry to tell all of the Huckster Carlson parrots in the world, but somebody has got to do it. Somebody has got to keep order.

And better us than anyone else. Because if it's us, we drive rather than ride.

Iran is doing its best to get hold of nuclear weapons. And the last time we were attacked on our soil it was by proxy terrorists funded by Middle Eastern governments in the same way that Iran is funding Hamas and other terror groups currently.

What if instead of just flying planes filled with passengers into the WTC and the Pentagon they had a nuclear weapon or biological dirty bomb on each plane?

What if the next terror attack comes in the form of a suicide bomber setting off an atomic bomb in Times Square or downtown L.A. or Chicago?

If you don't think Iran would arrange that by proxy if they could, I don't know what to tell you.

I also don't know what to tell you if you don't find it significant that Iran, N. Korea, China, and Russia are all buddying up to each other in Ukraine. The last time all the dictatorial governments got together we had WWII. And Iran may well be the most dangerous of all four if they get nukes, because they are an extreme religious theocracy. They will do things the others won't.

So sure, if you want to invoke the popularity of the ideology, go ahead. Usually what that tends to mean is that it's a lowest-common-denominator idea that is emotionally attractive rather than the smart thing to do.

And pursuant to this question, I would argue that history proves that to be the case.

This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 11:00 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:59 pm to
Upvote.
Posted by jrobic4
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:02 pm to
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Find another route then


Oh, you sweet, stupid summer child!
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:32 pm to
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Nobody should have a problem with US protecting international sea lanes.
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Nobody should have a problem with US protecting international sea lanes.


What is your opinion on NATO members not spending on their militaries as agreed?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:36 pm to
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the other route is around south africa.

this is like people attaching ship on the way to the Panama canal.


Analysts suggest that while the Red Sea is crucial for global trade, the effects on the U.S. economy are comparatively minimal. For instance, Mark Hopkins, an economist at Moody’s Analytics, noted that such disruptions are "unlikely to have any significant impact on the U.S. economy."
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