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re: Vaccine schedule from 1980 vs today

Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:11 am to
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:11 am to
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And yet the Amish take none of those and are some of the healthiest people on earth.


They also build a barn and walk 30 miles while you’re pounding Mountain Dew and Cheetos on Call of Duty.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:12 am to
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And yet the Amish take none of those and are some of the healthiest people on earth.




Amish people do vaccinate their kids. At a lower rate than the general population, but it's a myth that the amish are all unvaxxed.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:14 am to
It is unclear how much damage microplastics, sugar, gmo foods, vaccines, pain relievers do. Anyone expecting huge benefits from Tylenol awareness will be disappointed. Measurable improvements sure. But it is unlikely to drop the rate from 1 in 30 to 1 in 3000!

This is because we have been subjected to death by a thousand cuts. Remove any one and the benefit is negligible.

Hopefully we can start moving in the right direction for a change.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:15 am to
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Because it's a bigger problem than just one cause. It's a culture of neglect, short-sightedness, and fear propaganda.

Kids in the 60s were diving under their desks because they were afraid of getting nuked. That kind of trauma carries over generationally along with other fears spread by a media apparatus that is very good at keeping people in their place.

It's a cumulative effect of all this negative culture that has seeped into the developing minds of children and the poison has only increased in intensity due to the internet and its pervasiveness.

Children do not play anymore. They do not socialize. They are reared with no God, no love, no family. Instead they are bombarded with "influencers" everywhere. And most people do not know what their kids are watching.



So the cause of increased autism is boredom, generations of cultural issues, and kids not playing outside?

Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:15 am to
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omegaman66


Well said.

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This is because we have been subjected to death by a thousand cuts.


Exactly!

quote:

Hopefully we can start moving in the right direction for a change.


Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:15 am to
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Amish people do vaccinate their kids. At a lower rate than the general population



So you agree we should discuss if an increase in vaccines caused a spike in autism
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6473 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:16 am to
It's modern living. Along with the good aspects of convenience come the bad aspects like autism. You can scoff at that if you want, but it is inevitable.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:17 am to
I think it's pretty obvious that the increase in autism isn't much of an increase at all and we're just diagnosing autism at 100x rate vs the past.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:17 am to
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Indeed, the autism pectrum was broadened, and that accounts for the alleged “spike in cases. RFK, Jr. took this change and ran with it(because he’s a kook and opportunist).


Have you seen kids with severe autism? Kids that’ll never live independently? Kids that will never have a job, support themselves? Kids that can get violent at the flip of a switch?

Not saying there isn’t a spike from broadening the diagnosis, but the severely autistic population is rapidly growing. You’re being entirely too flippant about it
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31598 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:17 am to
I'm not getting this.

Glutathione is produced by the liver and is found in all sorts of food.

You can take glutathione supplements.

When does this cause autism in the child? If they mother's levels of glutathione are low or the fetus?

Does this all happen during the pregnancy and then the child is born autistic?
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6537 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:17 am to
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They also build a barn and walk 30 miles while you’re pounding Mountain Dew and Cheetos on Call of Duty.


Wut?? I think you are just furthering my argument that no vaccines and a healthy lifestyle is the way to go.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:20 am to
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Have you seen kids with severe autism? Kids that’ll never live independently? Kids that will never have a job, support themselves? Kids that can get violent at the flip of a switch?



Yes, and they represent a fraction of those who are diagnosed with autism these days.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181955 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:20 am to
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Should the internet and LED lights also give me pause?


IDK. Should they?

I have seen the theories on LED lights. Not sure why you are trying to use that to derail a discussion about vaccines but you do you.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6473 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:20 am to
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Have you seen kids with severe autism? Kids that’ll never live independently? Kids that will never have a job, support themselves? Kids that can get violent at the flip of a switch?



Some of these kids suffered an anoxic episode during childbirth. This is not uncommon.

Not saying this is the reason for the rise in autism. Just saying that sometimes the answer is right there and people don't mention it.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12035 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:21 am to
I was born in late 1979 also. All through my Middle and High School years I do not remember Autism or Aspergers being a 'thing' or anyone having it. I'm not saying it didn't exist or is not real I just can't remember anyone having it. Also, ADHD was not nearly as prevalent as well seems like every kid now has 'ADHD' and is on some form of prescription for it. Makes one wonder......
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
61827 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:22 am to
I was born in the 60’s and I think we received less than 10 total vaccines and boosters growing up. If that didn’t take care of it, then mercurochrome or merthiolate would kill it.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55655 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:23 am to
Awhile back the wife and I were talking about the number of vaccines we were required to take back in the 60's before entering elementary school and we both thought it was around 5 shots.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181955 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:24 am to
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I think it's pretty obvious that the increase in autism isn't much of an increase at all and we're just diagnosing autism at 100x rate vs the past.


Again, all of the studies online say that it only accounts for between 25-40% of the increase. One Danish study says 60% and is the only one I could find that high.

Considering that, what do you think the reason is for the increase in the rest?
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
828 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:24 am to
They, the Amish, also basically live in a plastic free society
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181955 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:25 am to
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I was born in late 1979 also. All through my Middle and High School years I do not remember Autism or Aspergers being a 'thing' or anyone having it. I'm not saying it didn't exist or is not real I just can't remember anyone having it.


This and something as simple as peanut allergies. I can't remember any kid having peanut allergies and remember lunch serving peanut butter sandwiches to the entire school.

That has nothing to do with the vaccines I am sure but just an observation.
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