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VA Senate just passed 3 gun control bills

Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:31 pm
I know the board has been following this.

LINK

SB 70 Universal Background Checks

SB 69 Handgun Purchase Limit

SB 35 Localities can ban guns where they would otherwise be allowed by law

Still have to pass the House and be signed by Gov Coonman.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:34 pm to
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Still have to pass the House



Is that gonna happen?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:39 pm to
Can someone please explain the logic behind limits on the amount of handguns you can purchase?

How is that supposed to prevent shootings?

If a potential shooter plans to carry out an attack and he doesn’t have a gun, this law won’t stop him from buying one.
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:41 pm to
Trump will def win Virginia now
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7120 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:43 pm to
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Can someone please explain the logic behind limits on the amount of handguns you can purchase?

It’s the slippery slope. Once a law stands that regulates how frequently you can purchase a firearm future laws can be passed amending the time frame. Today it’s one firearm a month, in a decade it’s one firearm in a year, and in a few decades it’s one firearm in a lifetime.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:43 pm to
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Is that gonna happen?


Yes, they will pass the House and be signed by the Governor.

Legal challenges will be swift, tied up in court, and eventually lost.

I am not a gun owner nor a particularly ardent 2nd Amendmnent defender (I view it as a kind of necessary evil).

The biggest concern I have is that, living right on the TN-VA line, I am seeing an entire region of people have their political power completely decimated, which never ends well. There will be cultural aftershocks for years after this.

We have seen Chicago control Illinois politicos for 150 years.

We have seen NYC control New York politics for 200 years.

No one in Virginia has seen progressive metropolitan areas dominate dominate the political discourse in their lifetimes. The state government has been completely remade and it has had immediate ramifications for those citizens. The boiling hatred and antipathy towards Richmond, Charlottesville, and DC is palpable.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:44 pm to
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Can someone please explain the logic behind limits on the amount of handguns you can purchase?

How is that supposed to prevent shootings?

There may be some logic but I'm scratching my head there as well

You only need one handgun to shoot someone. What is the proposed limit?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:46 pm to
It’s one per month I believe

I genuinely don’t know how this law would even in theory be beneficial
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:48 pm to
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You only need one handgun to shoot someone. What is the proposed limit?


I believe it is 1 per month.

Gun control advocates will say it's a safety measure to prevent stockpiling.

2nd Amendment advocates will say it is a financial disincentive when combined with the new universal background check law.

Haven't investigated if it controls for interstate transactions (can VA residents drive across the state line and purchase multiple pistols from a Bass Pro in TN?).
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:50 pm to
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I believe it is 1 per month.



Infringement. Next.

Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16303 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:56 pm to
It's really hard for me to imagine the people of Virginia looking at Maryland and saying "we want to be more like that."
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85810 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:02 am to
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You only need one handgun to shoot someone.

But there are multiple rooms in my house.

As a teenager, I walked in an AA male standing over my mother after she and my father had passed out in the living room one night.

If I only have a gun by my bed and I say in my study when I hear someone breaking in what if I don't have enough time to make it across the hall and downstairs in time? This rule is stupid for multiple reasons, but worse of all it is in violation of our God Given rights. Coonman and that entire house need to drug out of their offices and prosecuted the minute these laws impact a life in a negative way.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:05 am to
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But there are multiple rooms in my house.

As a teenager, I walked in an AA male standing over my mother after she and my father had passed out in the living room one night.

If I only have a gun by my bed and I say in my study when I hear someone breaking in what if I don't have enough time to make it across the hall and downstairs in time? This rule is stupid for multiple reasons, but worse of all it is in violation of our God Given rights. Coonman and that entire house need to drug out of their offices and prosecuted the minute these laws impact a life in a negative way.

I suppose my point was it wouldn't stop a criminal from doing something you don't want them to do with the gun

If some gang member wants to go execute someone this won't stop them. Whether they obtain the gun legally or illegally they don't need multiple guns to commit a gun violence crime. This doesn't stop that.
Posted by OU812
Greensboro, NC
Member since Apr 2004
12568 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:37 am to
All NORTHERN VIRGINIA!!!
Posted by CrusaderInfidel
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:31 am to
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Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:31 am to
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Trump will def win Virginia now

Virginia’s gone.

It’s gone.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 3:41 am to
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“Others do what we call a ‘straw purchase,’ and no background check can stop that. That’s where you give money to a person with a clean background, even though you’re a criminal. They go buy the gun, pass all the checks," explained Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League.
I think it's a felony now to falsify a gun purchase application and the application has as one of its questions; "Are you purchasing this gun for someone else?" Not sure how the Virginia law will change the fact that if someone is willing to risk a felony conviction by purchasing a weapon for someone that can't have one, then that practice is going to move along unabated. These crap laws need to move along the court route and start getting some this idiocy stopped.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27992 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 3:55 am to
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I genuinely don’t know how this law would even in theory be beneficial


Some distorted logic going on up there. Problem is NOVA is populated by a lot of new immigrants and new citizens(voters), who don't really understand any of this.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140552 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 4:11 am to
NOVA is also populated with so many progstain transplants that I’m afraid my home state is lost to the insane forever.

I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the shift and what it will mean to the good people outside NOVA.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140552 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 4:46 am to
Are you a Virginian? If so, where are you from?
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