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re: US Marshals Find 200 Missing Children In Nationwide Operation
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:06 am to Night Vision
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:06 am to Night Vision
SFP says this doesn’t exist and is only a scam for law enforcement to increase their budgets.
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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Did y'all read the release?
It is literally what I told you the patterns that dominate domestic "trafficking" in the US, as opposed to the "Sound of Freedom" mythology.
You can go back into those threads and see me say: bad homes, often foster care, lead to runaways. Those runaways engage in prostitution. That and family/family friends sexually abusing/trafficking their own kids.
Yes, I read the release. But you're literally admitting there is a network of people who prey on these abused/exploited/runaway children. I don't really understand what you are arguing, and I don't think you do either.
Forced prostitution using exploited runaways is another way of saying human trafficking.
And no, that isn't a strawman argument regarding DJT. You will justify and legitimize that sort of "government intrusion" by any means necessary. Why, I do not know.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 8:11 am
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:10 am to Paddyshack
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But you're literally admitting there is a network of people
No. This story involves no "network"
These examples are not related.
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I don't really understand what you are arguing, and I don't think you do either.
I do. This was considered simply prostitution until very recently when the government started changing what words mean, in their best 1984 impression.
Trafficking, especially for certain parts of the political spectrum/internet, has a completely different conception (think, Sound of Freedom). It's in no way related to children running away from home and implies that very network you're still trying to interject into a situation where no network exists.
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Forced prostitution using exploited runaways is another way of saying human trafficking.
For about 10 years. The other 12000 years of human history? Not so much.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's the truth.
In the US, shitty homes/family create "trafficking". Full stop.
No, you're comment is one for simpletons. "Family is the #1 danger to children". That is so purposefully stupid to incite arguements.
What you forgot to mention was:
Family is the #1 protector of children in the history of this world.
Family is the #1 reason to determine a child's success.
Family is the #1 reason that people help others.
You can't just make a statement based off a statistic that supports your ignorant idea by ignoring the opposite that shits on your statement. It's intellectually stupid and designed for this. Create arguments for no reason other than to argue. Which, is in itself, idiotic.
Secondly, trying to downplay "stranger-danger" is a tact i've never seen played. Maybe you should actually have your own children before being "statistic man". You can't learn about parenthood and kids through a book.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:11 am to Paddyshack
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And so did SlowFlowPro. He mocked and continues to mock people who bring up this issue.
I wouldn’t worry too much about being mocked by someone who’s entire existence revolves around an anonymous message board.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:12 am to BugAC
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"Family is the #1 danger to children"
“Marriage is the #1 cause of divorce”.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:18 am to BugAC
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"Family is the #1 danger to children". That is so purposefully stupid to incite arguements.
Look at the data I posted.
80-90% of abuse is from family or people close to family.
If you want to focus on stopping child sexual abuse, that is where we should focus.
Attacking that will decrease the runaway population and naturally decrease the "trafficking" at issue.
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Family is the #1 protector of children in the history of this world.
Family is the #1 reason to determine a child's success.
Family is the #1 reason that people help others.
Yes, and you're dealing with large numbers and don't understand what families do terrible things more often than strangers, too. Because we're a country of 330M+ and everyone starts out with some form of a family.
The 2 concepts are not opposed to each other.
Shitty families creating pathologies is a much broader concept than just sexual abuse. This is a fully understood cause of social pathologies when we discuss, for example, dysfunctional black populations, on here.
Do you think this argument:
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Family is the #1 protector of children in the history of this world.
Family is the #1 reason to determine a child's success.
Family is the #1 reason that people help others.
should end discussions about that pathology, too?
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Secondly, trying to downplay "stranger-danger" is a tact i've never seen played.
You need to get out more.
There is a reason why explaining the mythology of this is important to the actual outlets who deal with exploited and abused children.
It takes the focus off the real danger and puts kids at risk from abuse by family and people close to family, who are the ones most likely to abuse the children.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 8:21 am
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
A good parallel would be that most homicide is committed by someone the victim knows so serial killers don’t exist. That’s effectively what you’re saying.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:31 am to Paddyshack
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I think it's hilarious that he is up in arms about this topic
Wouldnt surprise me if he were involved in it.
Maybe he needs a visit from the Marshals.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:39 am to Madking
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A good parallel would be that most homicide is committed by someone the victim knows
This is a good start
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so serial killers don’t exist.
This is where it goes wrong. 80 to 90% is not equal to 100%.
To use your example serial killers exist but are very rare and what does not exist is a large scale, likely international, consortium of serial killers who coordinate killings for some sort of an occult, religious, or political reason.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 8:40 am
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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Sadly the biggest threat for children
Family is the biggest threat to children followed by close family friends (including boyfriends)
Family is the biggest threat to children???
You sure about that?? THE biggest threat??
I disagree. Certainly there are dysfunctional families and some children are abused by family members, but when looked at statistically these are the exception.
My experience has been most families love and protect their children.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:42 am to Night Vision
quote:has nothing to do with politics . RA’d for wrong board.
US Marshals Find 200 Missing Children In Nationwide Operation
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:43 am to LSUJML
Inconvenient truth.
Will be disregarded
Will be disregarded
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:45 am to lake chuck fan
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Certainly there are dysfunctional families and some children are abused by family members, but when looked at statistically these are the exception
Sadly they are the overwhelming majority.
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My experience has been most families love and protect their children.
This is true and doesn't refute the other argument
Our country is very big with 330 million or so citizens. If you were to say 99% of families are completely wholesome and only 1% engaged in an abuse, which would be optimistic, you'd still be dealing with millions engaging abuse. Make it 99.9% and we are at what, 330k people involved?
People have a hard time conceptualizing big numbers and 330 million is a really big number
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
That’s the point, using a numerical fallacy to discredit a serious problem. Some things are unavoidable because there are billions of examples that produce a certain number. One is a societal issue the other is a business that could be drastically reduced.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Statistically, it's public school employees. By far.
Family is the biggest threat to children
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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80-90% of abuse is from family or people close to family.
=/= trafficking not being involved.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:02 am to blueboy
He’s making a side by side comparison with two things that aren’t equivalent. Uncle Fred isn’t molesting hundreds of his nieces and nephews.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:03 am to blueboy
People in positions of authority, teachers, coaches, clergy, politicians, etc
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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Look at the data I posted.
This isn't a book keeping operation. It's common sense. While "family" may be a danger to children, family is a greater protector of children. You won't find that statistic in a book, however.
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If you want to focus on stopping child sexual abuse, that is where we should focus.
It's not a zero sum game.
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Yes, and you're dealing with large numbers and don't understand what families do terrible things more often than strangers, too.
That's such a disingenuous statement. By statistical numbers alone, yes your right. Because every human alive is born from a family. Therefore, the numbers to your simplistic view work out. But, what is far more apparent through history of not just mankind, but most living beings, is that the family unit is more responsible for the protection and well being of children than them being a danger.
You should know this.
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You need to get out more.
There is a reason why explaining the mythology of this is important to the actual outlets who deal with exploited and abused children.
It's not "mythology". You don't have kids. You have no earthly idea of the dangers children face in the world.
It's one of those things that in order for you to have a clue, you absolutely must experience it.
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It takes the focus off the real danger and puts kids at risk from abuse by family and people close to family, who are the ones most likely to abuse the children.
Again, it's not a zero sum game. We, as humans, are capable of thinking of more than 1 related topic. Family abuse does not negate stranger abuse. Stranger abuse does not negate family abuse. Both are capable of being discussed.
But coming at this with such a myopic viewpoint makes your opinions foolish.
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