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re: US Intelligence says Iran can withstand a US Blockade for many months

Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:35 am to
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Clown.

Please articulate the following

1. Reason for starting this
2. Our goals now that it started
3. Our path to achieving those goals

Thanks
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108966 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:38 am to
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You mean real estate developers Witkoff and Kushner. They probably said 460 instead of 500 kgs to make it seem more exact and more believable.


And no denial from Iran that it was said and fighting to keep Nuclear enrichment off the table of negotiations.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
962 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:38 am to
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To bring them to their knees.
I understand the sentiment behind this. Speaking from an academic and practical viewpoint void of emotion, this seemed to grow past the original stated purposes. These purposes were loosely stated after the President met with Netanyahu around New Year’s. Nuclear program, enrichment capabilities, delivery systems. Whether or not direct intelligence proved all three is immaterial. What can be said is these 3 are reliant on each other to have any effect.

If these objectives were met swiftly with precision then the ‘incursion’ should have ended, as they were the primary objectives. However, everything escalated quickly with the assassination of many religious, military, & government leaders along with many of their scientists. If reports are accurate, many of these officials’ family members were killed also. It spiraled under its own energy after that, including but not limited to the demand for ‘unconditional surrender’. This signaled regime change including the elimination of the IRGC. The global economic and geopolitical ramifications have grown exponentially with these ‘added’ objectives.

There are other objectives now stated in the negotiations, but the genesis was my focus.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173572 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:38 am to
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. So someone went and counted them, but we have no clue how to bomb those locations?

Presumably some of their stockpile is far underground in locations that we can't bomb

But no one really knows what they have left
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:43 am to
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This blockade doesn't win shite. Having the blockade is fine but alone it just hurts everyone and helps nobody. It certainly isn't going to destroy the IRGC.


This.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6253 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:53 am to
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But no one really knows what they have left


Exactly, but this reporting is saying they have plenty.

Thats why its bullshite propaganda
Posted by NoEmpathy
Member since Feb 2023
121 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 11:23 am to
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Please articulate the following 1. Reason for starting this 2. Our goals now that it started 3. Our path to achieving those goals Thanks


1. Destroy the regime in Iran
2. See number 1
3. Whatever it takes to see that through

Your welcome
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
36976 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 11:37 am to
You are winning then.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173572 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:04 pm to
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1. Destroy the regime in Iran
2. See number 1
3. Whatever it takes to see that through


So a full on ground invasion is ok?
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10768 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:07 pm to
Maybe they can, but at what cost? Maybe they'll finally run out of that Obama cash.
Posted by NoEmpathy
Member since Feb 2023
121 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:10 pm to
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So a full on ground invasion is ok?


Yes.

Or we could kick this can even further down the road.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173572 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:11 pm to
A full ground invasion of Iran is a pretty terrible idea
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9349 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:15 pm to
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quote:
But no one really knows what they have left


Exactly, but this reporting is saying they have plenty.

Thats why its bullshite propaganda


President Trump has repeatedly claimed that Iran's missile forces are "mostly decimated" or "obliterated," stating in May 2026 that Iran has only about 18% to 19% of its pre-war arsenal left. Other officials, like Secretary of State Marco Rubio, have suggested about 50% remains.

quote:

Confidential reports delivered to the White House indicate that Iran actually retains approximately 70% of its missile stockpile and 75% of its mobile launchers.


So if you think no one knows than both this report, Trump, and Rubio are just spewing propaganda? Frankly I think ours and Israeli intelligence of their pre war stock pile was correct and our battle damage assessments are fairly reliable . So someone is bullshitting the numbers.
Posted by NoEmpathy
Member since Feb 2023
121 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:22 pm to
So we just pack up and go home? And just hope Iran stops funding proxy wars and attacks against our us, our global interests and our allies? That sounds like a pretty terrible idea to me, but to each their own
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173572 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:34 pm to
Ideally we work out some diplomatic deal

I thought Trump was supposed to be good at that sort of thing
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9349 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:42 pm to
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So we just pack up and go home? And just hope Iran stops funding proxy wars and attacks against our us, our global interests and our allies? That sounds like a pretty terrible idea to me, but to each their own


So tell us how many ground troops do you think it would take to in order to engage in total regime change in Iran and fully occupy the country for a decade or longer to make sure sectarian violence doesn't rise back up?
After all you are still going to have remnants of that ideology there for a long long time. You honestly think this country is ready to commit to total war with Iran?
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7902 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:59 pm to
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because we haven’t so far and don’t seem to be any closer to doing so.

We are closer than we were in Jan 2025, they are militarily degraded.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138765 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 1:01 pm to
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There seems to be a very stupid notion that what is bad for China is necessarily good for us
No.
The "very stupid notion" is that we can continue to let China enjoy MFNTS, while they rip off US trademarks, US patents, and US tech.
The "very stupid notion" is that we agreed to extraordinarily unbalanced trading arrangements to "gain access" to Chinese markets.
A "very stupid notion" is that we continued to allow SDT provisions to China as it grew to the world's second largest economy.
A "very stupid notion" is that we allowed China to work cooperatively with rogue states against US interest, and involve itself in US politics.
A "very stupid notion" is that we gave a scintilla of legitimacy to the CCP claim that Taiwan is a "breakaway republic."

The collective effect of those "very stupid notions" is that they were gifts which quickly became expectations and foundational negotiating positions for China.
Posted by NoEmpathy
Member since Feb 2023
121 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 1:02 pm to
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So tell us how many ground troops do you think it would take to in order to engage in total regime change in Iran and fully occupy the country for a decade or longer to make sure sectarian violence doesn't rise back up?


A lot of intelligence I’m not privy to in order to make that determination. Fortunately we have SOD that is competent enough to figure that out unlike those of the last administration who’s only deterrent was the word “don’t”.

quote:

You honestly think this country is ready to commit to total war with Iran?


No I do not. Just look at the national debt, may as well gift our future generations the problem of a nuclear Iran to go along with it. I think half of Americans are scared of their own shadow
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13826 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 1:06 pm to
Awww another OT bro here to lecture us. How kind!
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