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US Home Sales Crashed in October

Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:58 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:59 am to
Good. Maybe people will be able to afford one soon.
Posted by GalvoAg
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:59 am to
Good
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:00 am to
The only way that happens is if we get Wall Street out of the house buying business
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:02 am to
That should help with demand and bring down prices.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:02 am to
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The only way that happens is if we get Wall Street out of the house buying business


And stop deficit spending.

Which puts wealth in the hands of investors who use it to buy investment property.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:02 am to
Not selling is one way that happens
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:04 am to
Busted bubble works for me.

Blood on the streets n such
Posted by GoblinGuide
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:05 am to
About damn time. Homes aren't investment vehicles
Posted by SloaneRanger
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:06 am to
Trump is like the new CEO who comes on board to discover that all the books have been cooked.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:06 am to
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Not selling is one way that happens


Good job. You spotted the dog that is not barking.

Who wants to bail on a mortgage under 3% for one that is over 7%?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:38 am to
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Good. Maybe people will be able to afford one soon.


That's not going to happen "soon" without a lot of pain.

Too many buyers got low rates (4.5% or lower) with prices a lot lower than they are now. These are buyers whose equity hasn't yet reached a level making it worthwhile for them to upgrade at current rates and prices (and this is in light of the average equity being at a historically high dollar amount).

Unless they are going to do some considerable down-sizing, the combination of continued 6%+ rates and stubborn pricing is keeping them from putting their homes on the market (thus restricting supply). As long as they can keep affording their current mortgages and can manage in the homes they are in, they aren't very likely to sell just to get into a more expensive situation for the same-sized or smaller home while moving to something even slightly larger is generally going to be far more expense than their current situation.

As long as Congress continues to run up the debt, the Treasury will have to continue offering higher yields to attract/keep buyers. As long as the Treasury is still having to offer higher yields, the yield on the 10yr is going to remain above 4%. As long as the 10yr yield remains high, so too will mortgage rates.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:40 am to
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without a lot of pain.


I'm ok with the pain. Without it, we just kick the can down the road. The Stock Market might be our biggest welfare group.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 11:41 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:42 am to
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Trump has no idea of the epic rugpull that is coming



He may never get re-elected if the economy craters. Of course, I’d rather a successful businessman lead the country through troubled economic times than a politician.
Posted by oldskule
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:45 am to
It's is simple math:
high price X high interest rate = cannot afford house
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:45 am to
quote:

quote:

Trump has no idea of the epic rugpull that is coming


He may never get re-elected if the economy craters.


Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:49 am to
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Homes aren't investment vehicles


They are and have been forever for individuals.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:52 am to
Shouldn't October be initial, i.e. BLUE?

How would they go straight to revised?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:53 am to
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They are and have been forever for individuals.


Moreso today. People used to live in the same home most of their lives.

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