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re: US Home Sales Crashed in October

Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:13 pm to
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He may never get re-elected if the economy craters


God forbid. He would tie FDR for being elected four times!
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:14 pm to
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I think he is saying that homes should not be investment vehicles and you just proved his point. 


This is correct. Housing should never be looked at as a speculative investment. You end up will bubbles that distort the market. In 2008 they used the derivatives market to buy up all the bad loans so the banks continued to make bad loans causing the bubble. This time Wall Street and Hedge Funds are outright buying whole subdivisions and SFH to distort the market and now we have a bubble bigger than 2008
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39786 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:18 pm to
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This is correct. Housing should never be looked at as a speculative investment. You end up will bubbles that distort the market. In 2008 they used the derivatives market to buy up all the bad loans so the banks continued to make bad loans causing the bubble. This time Wall Street and Hedge Funds are outright buying whole subdivisions and SFH to distort the market and now we have a bubble bigger than 2008
A perfect example of knowing JUST enough to be dangerous.

But still full of shite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:23 pm to
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He may never get re-elected if the economy craters.


Which is why the Democrats sacrificed Kamala and Timmy.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:25 pm to
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This is correct. Housing should never be looked at as a speculative investment. You end up will bubbles that distort the market. In 2008 they used the derivatives market to buy up all the bad loans so the banks continued to make bad loans causing the bubble. This time Wall Street and Hedge Funds are outright buying whole subdivisions and SFH to distort the market and now we have a bubble bigger than 2008


You end up with 2-3 percent YoY since 1971. That’s not a bubble. That’s a 50 year tried and true investment.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:10 pm to
The problem is that builders aren't building smaller starter homes like they did 50 years ago. Back in the day you got married in your mid 20s and wanted a 1400 square foot house big enough for you, the wife and the coming child. After working a while you had the money to get something bigger and you had equity to plow into the newer home.
Today, the younger couples are living in apartments building no equity for the larger more expensive homes that are the only ones available.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:21 pm to
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The problem is that builders aren't building smaller starter homes like they did 50 years ago. Back in the day you got married in your mid 20s and wanted a 1400 square foot house big enough for you, the wife and the coming child. After working a while you had the money to get something bigger and you had equity to plow into the newer home. Today, the younger couples are living in apartments building no equity for the larger more expensive homes that are the only ones available.




Real estate is hyper local. In Nashville, a very desirable market, there are over 500 new construction homes under 350k between 1250 - 1500 square feet within an hour radius to the center of the city.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 3:23 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:25 pm to
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person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.

So we both agree trump is a populist right?
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
1053 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:28 pm to
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a person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.


Today I learned that I’m a populist!

My life has been severely impacted at least once (2008 crash) by a combo of Wall Street greed and terrible government policy.

It’s also made buying a decent house out of the question, at least for the next few years until my salary increases.

I’ll survive, but I’ll never make up for the lost years, at least financially speaking.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39786 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:29 pm to
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My life has been severely impacted at least once (2008 crash) by a combo of Wall Street greed and terrible government policy.

It’s also made buying a decent house out of the question, at least for the next few years until my salary increases.
So both the crash AND the boom were bad for you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:35 pm to
Trump is a massive populist
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59262 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:36 pm to
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So we both agree trump is a populist right?


You think Trump isn’t part of the elite, but rather an ordinary person who thinks the elite are keeping him down?

Or are you attempting to frame Trump a certain way to legitimize the lawfare?

We all know the answer. You far left wackos don’t have gray areas.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:36 pm to
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Today I learned that I’m a populist!


At least you’re not a mentally ill libertarian, the dumbest subset of ideological f@ggots in human history.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 3:37 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:40 pm to
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least you’re not a mentally ill libertarian, the dumbest subset of ideological f@ggots in human history.

. Freedom is so icky ain't it, girl.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19348 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:41 pm to
Who let the retard in?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117477 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:42 pm to
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Real estate is hyper local. In Nashville, a very desirable market, there are over 500 new construction homes under 350k between 1250 - 1500 square feet within an hour radius to the center of the city.

My nephew lives in Nashville with his wife and kid. He loves it.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97721 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:45 pm to
Are you trying to pretend to be a libertarian now?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:50 pm to
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You think Trump isn’t part of the elite, but rather an ordinary person who thinks the elite are keeping him down?

I think that's how trump positioned his campaign do you not?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59262 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:55 pm to
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I think that's how trump positioned his campaign do you not?


I think Trump positioned his campaign to focus on immigration, the economy, and foreign policy. Noting the lawfare he was facing was politically motivated is not the same as believing the “elite” are systemically keeping him down. He is part of the elite.
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
1053 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:59 pm to
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So both the crash AND the boom were bad for you?


Y'all have no idea how bad the crash was in some places out West. Took me years to save enough to move back to Baton Rouge. With basically zero contacts I was starting from the bottom.

Ended up going back to school in 2018, finished in 2022, passed bar same year. So missed out on “the boom.”
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