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re: US authorities arrest Palestinian student protester at Columbia University

Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13556 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:05 pm to
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. Is it normal for the government to have moved this guy from the Jersey facility (where he had access to family, etcetera) and to a facility more than a thousand miles away in Louisiana?


Yes, Jena and Pine Prairie (Oakdale) are two of the biggest facilities in the country. There's also Winn too. Although there is a detention facility in Elizabeth, NJ so that is strange.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 1:06 pm
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7943 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Literally 1000's of times, in fact got an asylum granted this morning


If I can ask, what state or states do you practice in?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13556 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:19 pm to
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If I can ask, what state or states do you practice in?


Based in Louisiana, but have offices in a few states and a few in Mexico.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3802 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:21 pm to
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I know he is getting booted and that's all I care about

Of course you don't care about Constitutionally protected rights. You just care about removing 'others' from your community.

You can't Make America any Greater than that, can you?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7943 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Based in Louisiana, but have offices in a few states and a few in Mexico.


Thanks.. in Florida and just subject to the mills in Miami that file all the asylum paperwork for everyone

I deal with them in another capacity
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7943 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Of course you don't care about Constitutionally protected rights. Y


What specific constitutional rights are not being protected??
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13556 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:28 pm to
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Thanks.. in Florida and just subject to the mills in Miami that file all the asylum paperwork for everyone

I deal with them in another capacity


Lots of scams from notarios in Miami. I've gotten a couple of messes to clean up from down that way over the last few months. Couple of notarios in the FL panhandle as well because there is a real lack of legit lawyers along I-10 between MS/AL state line and Jacksonville.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31833 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:58 pm to
As I understand DHS told the student that he was being detained because his student visa had been revoked. His wife then provided evidence of lawful permanent resident status. DHS then said that they were detaining him because his green card was revoked. I thought there was some due process involved in the rescission process.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2723 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:12 pm to
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I thought there was some due process involved in the rescission process.



8 USC 1182 and 8 USC 1227

quote:

B) Terrorist activities (i) In general Any alien who- (I) has engaged in a terrorist activity; (II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv)); (III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity; (IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of- (aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or (bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity; (V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi); (VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; (VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization; (VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or (IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years, is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity.


Note that no “material” support of terrorism needs to be alleged and no formal crime must be committed. Mere speech suffices. No due process, only "reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry".

This is the issue with these types of protests from the beginning. This statute has been this way since 2005 and has been used in the past to deport a variety of dissidents.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135805 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:35 pm to
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….but that isn’t the standard in immigration court
Interesting.
Thx for the info.
In that instance, you'd think these folks would better mind their P's & Q's
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
3746 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:45 pm to
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On what charges?


Hate speech and wrong think.
Posted by GoldenAge
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1629 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:00 pm to
I’m laughing at seeing Luke & Todd’s names here. Without yall saying last names I know who you’re talking about. But Todd isn’t practicing anymore, he’s enjoying retirement.
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