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re: Upon what legal authority can governments enforce shelter...
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:53 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:53 pm to cajunangelle
Have I misspelled it?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:59 pm to DeltaDoc
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Upon what legal authority can governments enforce
From the consent of the governed.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:01 pm to offshoretrash
quote:Hence the legal ramifications. One thing says they can, one thing says they can’t. There’d be too much of a mess if they implemented anything too forceful. The RI governor has resorted to scare tactics and harassing people. That will probably be the extent of it.
No where in the Constitution does it say our rights are to be given up for a virus pandemic and anyone that say it does is full of shite.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:18 pm to Lsutiger2424
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LA29: 724 – Identifies the powers of the Governor for meeting the dangers to the State and people presented by emergencies or disasters, including declaring a state of emergency by executive order or proclamation. Some of the powers include, but are not limited to: issue, amend or rescind executive orders, proclamations and regulations that have the force and effect of law; activate the State’s emergency response plan and compel evacuations. (The Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act [Stafford Act] empowers the Governor to request an emergency or major declaration which allows Federal assistance in advance of or in response to a natural or man-made disaster.)
Would you like me to get the federal law as well?
Yes, laws are passed all of the time that do not stand up to the Constitution. You can not suspend the Bill of Rights because someone may get sick or a Governor says so.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:23 pm to offshoretrash
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Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
You act like the Supreme Court has never interpreted, limited, or expanded constitutional rights.
Also outside of an actual quarantine the government can’t forcefully keep you inside your home. Governments right now are strongly urging you to stay home. To give less incentive to go out they are closing things and taking actions they actually can enforce.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:26 pm to DeltaDoc
Ironic to keep asking this question when it's obvious none of the posters on this board ever leave their house with all the time spent online.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:29 pm to Bulldogblitz
mobile browsers and wireless data services haven't made it to MS yet?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:55 pm to Presidio
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mobile browsers and wireless data services haven't made it to MS yet?
Multiple sclerosis?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:57 pm to Dizz
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You act like the Supreme Court has never interpreted, limited, or expanded constitutional rights.
The Supreme Court is not trying to take away our rights during this "pandemic", local and state governments are.
If the Supreme Court ruled that we could not go to church or peacefully assemble would you stand by and let that happen?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:53 pm to Bulldogblitz
quote:ive actually Traveled across the country recently. I promise it was essential travel. I went from the north east down to North Texas. Barely saw any cops on the road and nobody pulled over. It may have changed in the past few days, but so far just seems like it’s just scare tactics.
Ironic to keep asking this question when it's obvious none of the posters on this board ever leave their house with all the time spent online.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:08 pm to DeltaDoc
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What legal authority does the government have to issue and enforce shelter at home?
What an original question! I’m surprised it hasn’t been raised in this board before.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:40 pm to TrueTiger
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pretty much
it is outside of the authority granted under the Constitution
enforcement will be done by fear and intimidation
might makes right
the Republic is dead
The Republic is on life support. There's going to be an uprising. And I don't mean some overly dramatic marching in the streets and shooting our way up the steps of our respective capital buildings.
There will be a collective demanding by the people of this country to call for clear, definitive government limits regarding executive powers in a state of emergency. These checks and balances already exist for everything else, but somehow an "emergency" (which can mean anything they want, presently) suddenly cancels all of that, and a new set of ever-changing rules take over?
That's not what the founders ever intended. And if we don't get this change, then I guess it WILL be time for a new revolution. Something the founders gave us the right to pursue in the 2nd Amendment.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 12:05 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:45 pm to Lsutiger2424
quote:Does that statute suspend the 14th Amendment’s application of the Bill of Rights to the States? No?
LA29: 724 – Identifies the powers of the Governor for meeting the dangers to the State and people presented by emergencies or disasters, including declaring a state of emergency by executive order or proclamation. Some of the powers include, but are not limited to: issue, amend or rescind executive orders, proclamations and regulations that have the force and effect of law; activate the State’s emergency response plan and compel evacuations. (The Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act [Stafford Act] empowers the Governor to request an emergency or major declaration which allows Federal assistance in advance of or in response to a natural or man-made disaster.)
Ok, then read the Constitution and tell me where it says “emergencies” or gives any such exceptions to our rights.
quote:Oh please do, this will be fun.
Would you like me to get the federal law as well?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:54 pm to offshoretrash
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Nah I got the US Constitution. Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:31 am to Lsutiger2424
I don't know why you are wasting your time. I have told these lazy, sorry pieces of shits where to go read about what is going on in the state of louisiana on several occasions. They just want to pull shite out of their arse to have something to say.
I refuse to spoon feed bus window licking mother frickers.
Here is the purpose of one of the pertinent chapters. This is all the fricking apple sauce you get.
https://www.legis.la.gov/legis/Law.aspx?d=85668
That's some broad arse shite. I wonder what follows?
I refuse to spoon feed bus window licking mother frickers.
Here is the purpose of one of the pertinent chapters. This is all the fricking apple sauce you get.
https://www.legis.la.gov/legis/Law.aspx?d=85668
That's some broad arse shite. I wonder what follows?
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 12:33 am
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:42 am to Lsutiger2424
quote:Id prefer you frick off.
Would you like me to get the federal law as well?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:46 am to Lsutiger2424
Agreed. People should chill and let this crisis(which is real) pass.
Maybe I have too much faith in America to be overt-concerned about the long term threat.
Maybe I have too much faith in America to be overt-concerned about the long term threat.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:54 am to TSLG
You fricking people are retarded. I'm so thankful to be in a position to not have to deal with people like you in real life.
Yall stick to sports, lame arse jokes, and who has the cheapest gas type of conversations.
Or...
Quit being a lazy frick and actually learn some shite about a topic before you spout out your bullshite opinions.
Yall stick to sports, lame arse jokes, and who has the cheapest gas type of conversations.
Or...
Quit being a lazy frick and actually learn some shite about a topic before you spout out your bullshite opinions.
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