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Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:53 pm to
Have I misspelled it?
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:54 pm to
Is that constitutional?
Posted by gentillylife
NW GA
Member since Nov 2018
47 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:59 pm to
P*ssy.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15695 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:59 pm to
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Upon what legal authority can governments enforce


From the consent of the governed.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35259 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:01 pm to
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No where in the Constitution does it say our rights are to be given up for a virus pandemic and anyone that say it does is full of shite.
Hence the legal ramifications. One thing says they can, one thing says they can’t. There’d be too much of a mess if they implemented anything too forceful. The RI governor has resorted to scare tactics and harassing people. That will probably be the extent of it.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16410 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:18 pm to
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LA29: 724 – Identifies the powers of the Governor for meeting the dangers to the State and people presented by emergencies or disasters, including declaring a state of emergency by executive order or proclamation. Some of the powers include, but are not limited to: issue, amend or rescind executive orders, proclamations and regulations that have the force and effect of law; activate the State’s emergency response plan and compel evacuations. (The Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act [Stafford Act] empowers the Governor to request an emergency or major declaration which allows Federal assistance in advance of or in response to a natural or man-made disaster.)

Would you like me to get the federal law as well?


Yes, laws are passed all of the time that do not stand up to the Constitution. You can not suspend the Bill of Rights because someone may get sick or a Governor says so.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14728 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:23 pm to
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Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


You act like the Supreme Court has never interpreted, limited, or expanded constitutional rights.

Also outside of an actual quarantine the government can’t forcefully keep you inside your home. Governments right now are strongly urging you to stay home. To give less incentive to go out they are closing things and taking actions they actually can enforce.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26781 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:26 pm to
Ironic to keep asking this question when it's obvious none of the posters on this board ever leave their house with all the time spent online.
Posted by Presidio
Member since Nov 2017
3060 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:29 pm to
mobile browsers and wireless data services haven't made it to MS yet?
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26781 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:55 pm to
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mobile browsers and wireless data services haven't made it to MS yet?


Multiple sclerosis?

Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10174 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:57 pm to
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You act like the Supreme Court has never interpreted, limited, or expanded constitutional rights.


The Supreme Court is not trying to take away our rights during this "pandemic", local and state governments are.

If the Supreme Court ruled that we could not go to church or peacefully assemble would you stand by and let that happen?

Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35259 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:53 pm to
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Ironic to keep asking this question when it's obvious none of the posters on this board ever leave their house with all the time spent online.
ive actually Traveled across the country recently. I promise it was essential travel. I went from the north east down to North Texas. Barely saw any cops on the road and nobody pulled over. It may have changed in the past few days, but so far just seems like it’s just scare tactics.
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:08 pm to
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What legal authority does the government have to issue and enforce shelter at home?


What an original question! I’m surprised it hasn’t been raised in this board before.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:40 pm to
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pretty much

it is outside of the authority granted under the Constitution

enforcement will be done by fear and intimidation

might makes right

the Republic is dead


The Republic is on life support. There's going to be an uprising. And I don't mean some overly dramatic marching in the streets and shooting our way up the steps of our respective capital buildings.

There will be a collective demanding by the people of this country to call for clear, definitive government limits regarding executive powers in a state of emergency. These checks and balances already exist for everything else, but somehow an "emergency" (which can mean anything they want, presently) suddenly cancels all of that, and a new set of ever-changing rules take over?

That's not what the founders ever intended. And if we don't get this change, then I guess it WILL be time for a new revolution. Something the founders gave us the right to pursue in the 2nd Amendment.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 12:05 am
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14521 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:45 pm to
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LA29: 724 – Identifies the powers of the Governor for meeting the dangers to the State and people presented by emergencies or disasters, including declaring a state of emergency by executive order or proclamation. Some of the powers include, but are not limited to: issue, amend or rescind executive orders, proclamations and regulations that have the force and effect of law; activate the State’s emergency response plan and compel evacuations. (The Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act [Stafford Act] empowers the Governor to request an emergency or major declaration which allows Federal assistance in advance of or in response to a natural or man-made disaster.)
Does that statute suspend the 14th Amendment’s application of the Bill of Rights to the States? No?

Ok, then read the Constitution and tell me where it says “emergencies” or gives any such exceptions to our rights.

quote:

Would you like me to get the federal law as well?
Oh please do, this will be fun.
Posted by Mudge87
NOLA
Member since Apr 2014
550 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:54 pm to
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Nah I got the US Constitution. Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:31 am to
I don't know why you are wasting your time. I have told these lazy, sorry pieces of shits where to go read about what is going on in the state of louisiana on several occasions. They just want to pull shite out of their arse to have something to say.

I refuse to spoon feed bus window licking mother frickers.

Here is the purpose of one of the pertinent chapters. This is all the fricking apple sauce you get.

https://www.legis.la.gov/legis/Law.aspx?d=85668

That's some broad arse shite. I wonder what follows?
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 12:33 am
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20408 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:42 am to
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Would you like me to get the federal law as well?
Id prefer you frick off.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63486 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:46 am to
Agreed. People should chill and let this crisis(which is real) pass.
Maybe I have too much faith in America to be overt-concerned about the long term threat.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:54 am to
You fricking people are retarded. I'm so thankful to be in a position to not have to deal with people like you in real life.

Yall stick to sports, lame arse jokes, and who has the cheapest gas type of conversations.

Or...

Quit being a lazy frick and actually learn some shite about a topic before you spout out your bullshite opinions.
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