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re: Update: New - 48% of Maricopa election centers had printer or tabulator malfunctions

Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58200 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:04 pm to
We could have video of them dumping large bags of Republican votes into a volcano and nothing would be done. Haven’t we learned from the last time around? There is no white knight coming to the rescue. We are an immoral people reaping the consequences of that immorality.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31140 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:07 pm to
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Did it?


Lake’s and several others are saying it was mostly in Maricopa
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:10 pm to
They had to cheat a lot on this one. Hobbs has 1/4 of the twitter followers Lake has and Lake was up big in polls.
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20301 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:29 pm to
REMINDER- GOP lawyers petitioned the court to extend voting hours on Election Day due to mechanical issues in Maricopa but was denied. If this was affecting democrats and they petitioned the court, their request would have been granted
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10909 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:31 pm to
Is there a judge that’s willing to put this back into play?

If not, what’s the point?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:59 pm to
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like that as well. I would prefer to have a paper receipt, or a digital review showing who / what received my votes that I can take a picture of. Lastly, I should be able to see my votes online with a code to confirm that it is tallied correctly.

This seems like a simple way to restore some confidence in the system
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49904 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:03 pm to
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Is there a judge that’s willing to put this back into play?



Sure.

And that judge will never be allowed to hear any arguments concerning voting in Maricopa county.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50804 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:05 pm to
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malfunctions


It's not a malfunction, it's a feature.
Posted by TIGERHOLD
Orleans Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1033 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:05 pm to
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They had to cheat a lot on this one. Hobbs has 1/4 of the twitter followers Lake has and Lake was up big in polls.


Wait, so now we believe in the polls? What about the polls that had Hillary destroying Trump in 2016?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34467 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:37 pm to
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If this were the system, the same people complaining now would just be complaining that the computers would show the voter one thing, but tabulate something different.


You would be able to prove that case though.

The tabulation could be verified.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49904 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:42 pm to
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Wait, so now we believe in the polls? What about the polls that had Hillary destroying Trump in 2016?


Earlier a Trumpist claimed that Trump's loss in 2020 showed impeachment doesn't help the candidate.

I found that odd as Trumpists have claimed for 2 years that Lockdown Don won.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:49 pm to
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Fact is...it disproportionately affected GOP areas.
You will discount the analysis because it is WaPo, but the areas affected were 37% GOP, as compared to 35% GOP statewide.
quote:

Starting early on Election Day, printers at 70 of the county’s 223 polling sites produced ballots with ink that was too light to be read by vote-counting machines, which caused ballots to be rejected. ... The Post identified the precincts of affected voting locations using data provided by Maricopa County election officials and then examined the voter registration breakdown within each precinct using data from L2, an election data provider. ... The analysis found that the proportion of registered Republicans in affected precincts, about 37 percent, is virtually the same as the share of registered Republicans across the county, which stands at 35 percent. LINK.
Lake has been claiming that there were no problems at Dem precincts in Phoenix. She is wrong.
quote:

“And guess what?” she added. “They’ve had zero problems with their machines today. Not one machine spit out a ballot here today. Not one, in a very liberal area. So we were right to come and vote in a very liberal area.”

In fact, there were problems at locations in precincts that skew heavily Democratic, according to The Post’s analysis.

They included two elementary schools in east Phoenix and a health center in south Phoenix — all locations where the share of Democrats outnumbers Republicans by about 40 percentage points. At the Mountain Park Health Center in south Phoenix, which was among the precincts that experienced issues with printers, there were nearly three times as many votes for Lake’s Democratic opponent, Hobbs, as there were for the Republican candidate, according to results released by the county.
NPR reached similar results.

Voting equipment should not fail at this rate, and that is obviously a problem. But the notion that there was some vast conspiracy to frick-up the voting equipment exclusively in heavily-GOP precincts is utter hogwash.
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Sneauxghost
Member since Sep 2020
1089 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:50 pm to
You get the country you deserve I guess.
To what lengths will free people go to maintain freedom for the next generation?
I guess we’ll find out.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49904 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:05 pm to
WaPo and NPR.

Do better Hank.


Also, the machines worked just fine all through early voting. Election day they supposedly go tilt at very high rate.

ok.

Without even getting into the accepted fact that day of voting is heavily GOP, even in dem districts, the fact of the matter is voters were disenfranchised.

Doesn't matter who they were voting for. They were not allowed to vote.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18048 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:08 pm to
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You will discount the analysis because it is WaPo, but the areas affected were 37% GOP, as compared to 35% GOP statewide.

You don’t understand why this means nothing?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:10 pm to
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(E)ven in dem districts, the fact of the matter is voters were disenfranchised. ... Doesn't matter who they were voting for. They were not allowed to vote.
Hence my final paragraph.
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WaPo and NPR. Do better Hank.
Well, I called that one. But I actually agree with you that they have some bias on editorial matters. The problem is that this is pure number-crunching. The problems were NOT predominantly in GOP-precincts. Feel free to find somewhere that a Gateway Pundit crunched the numbers and reached a different result.
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accepted fact that day of voting is heavily GOP
Interesting notion. The Dems fricked-up same-day voting statewide, because the GOP votes more on election day. Interesting theory, even if it goes against the MAGA mantra that same-day voting is safe voting.
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 5:18 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:11 pm to
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You will discount the analysis because it is WaPo, but the areas affected were 37% GOP, as compared to 35% GOP statewide.
quote:

You don’t understand why this means nothing?

I only took nine credit-hours of Statistics, so I may not. Please explain it to me as if I had a GED.
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 5:15 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31140 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:17 pm to
Hank did exactly what I said he would do.

37% GOP, when you count how they vote day of in a county the size of Maricopa, is a big deal.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18048 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:18 pm to
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I only took nine credit-hours of Statistics, so I may not. Please explain it to me as if I had a GED.

Why did you post it then, Poindexter?

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:21 pm to
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Hank did exactly what I said he would do. 37% GOP, when you count how they vote day of in a county the size of Maricopa, is a big deal.
You are confused.

You said (and I quote) "Fact is...it disproportionately affected GOP areas."

The data say otherwise. You were not Nostradamus. You were just wrong.
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