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re: Unless you are prepared in advance spiritually, you will accept the Mark of the Beast
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:21 am to Revelator
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:21 am to Revelator
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and the hour of our testing is here.
Near but not here yet. We must first have a one world government before we can have the antichrist. Once the antichrist is in power you will then see the mark.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:21 am to the808bass
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Many have faced this decision. The early Christian tradesmen were banned from the markets. Early believers were killed for not pledging allegiance to the Emperor and not renouncing Jesus. Christians in Muslim nations go through this same struggle now. Christians have faced this in Marxist regimes for years.
Sure, but it was never a universal plan administered by a global government
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:23 am to Revelator
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Having the ability to prevent one from being able to buy or sell, seems to imply explicitly that there will be some type of observable mark or system.
John’s Revelation was rooted in his time. There was no physical mark that I’m aware of that forced the believers from the marketplace in Asia Minor. People who pledged allegiance to the Emperor didn’t receive a mark.
We probably have differing views of the interpretation of Revelation. But this process has unfolded in diverse places around the globe. Revelation meant something to the believers in 120 AD. And it has meant something to the believers through the ages. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a final arc. But we would be unwise to ignore its context in its initial writing and how it’s been interpreted and applied throughout time.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:23 am to Revelator
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I told her,” it might not be as many as you think.”
And it may not be pre-trib. I have studied this extensively and I’m still undecided. I think there may just be a small group of disciples that will be protected THROUGH the tribulation.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:24 am to Jack Daniel
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Near but not here yet. We must first have a one world government before we can have the antichrist. Once the antichrist is in power you will then see the mark.
All the pieces are currently in place to implement this type of system, and it wouldn’t take as long to roll it out as you’d think.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:26 am to tigersbh
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And it may not be pre-trib
Sure. There are different views on the chronological order of end time events, and Bible believers who differ on particulars.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:28 am to the808bass
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We probably have differing views of the interpretation of Revelation.
I’m sure we do, but that isn’t uncommon. There is so much symbolism in Revelation, that I wouldn’t expect all believers to be lockstep with each other in its interpretations.
This post was edited on 11/14/21 at 7:29 am
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:28 am to the808bass
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John’s Revelation was rooted in his time. There was no physical mark
There will be a physical mark in the right hand or the forehead.
Go to the 27:30 mark of the video below: implantable RFID microchips are best used in hands or forehead (see Revelation 13:16 below). However, when these batteries leak they cause a sore in the area the chip was implanted (Revelation 16:2 below).
Revelation 13:16 - "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"
Revelation 16:2 - "And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image."
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:33 am to Upperdecker
I believe that when the Bible gives details describing the mark that you have to take it literally. It will be in the hand or forehead and it will be 666. What size or method can be argued but those two things are certain.
It's coming. Prepare your children to withstand it!
It's coming. Prepare your children to withstand it!
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:36 am to AmosMosesAndTwins
Are you any different with your religion of science?
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:42 am to Big Gorilla
quote:Over the years theologians have all differed on Revelation being symbolic or literal. Or that it has all already taken place.
I always thought the Mark of the Beast was so far fetched it was just crazy to consider. After what we have seen recently....people are sheep and I FULLY believe it could happen.
If you study all of the teachings throughout the Bible of events that shall happen prior to the return of Jesus Christ. Yes, many have claimed they were nigh. But today's events only leave a few events remaining written about in the Bible-- to happen.
The literal rise of an antichrist, and Israel surrounded by great armies. With possibly more earthquakes in divers places at the time.
With the antipope and pure evil, neighbor against neighbor, even families in divide.
If we are to take the Book of Revelation literally, it outright challenges the wise to recognize the antichrist by the number 666.
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Revelation 13
The Beast Out of the Sea
1And I saw a beast coming up out the sea, having seven heads and ten horns: and upon his horns, ten diadems: and upon his heads, names of blasphemy. 2And the beast which I saw was like to a leopard: and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him his own strength and great power. 3And I saw one of his heads as it were slain to death: and his death's wound was healed. And all the earth was in admiration after the beast. 4And they adored the dragon which gave power to the beast. And they adored the beast, saying: Who is like to the beast? And who shall be able to fight with him? 5And there was given to him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies: and power was given to him to do, two and forty months. 6And he opened his mouth unto blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name and his tabernacle and them that dwell in heaven.
7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And power was given him over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. 8And all that dwell upon the earth adored him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb which was slain from the beginning of the world. 9If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10He that shall lead into captivity shall go into captivity: he that shall kill by the sword must be killed by the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
The Beast Out of the Earth
11And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth: and he had two horns, like a lamb: and he spoke as a dragon. 12And he executed all the power of the former beast in his sight. And he caused the earth and them that dwell therein to adore the first beast, whose wound to death was healed. 13And he did great signs, so that he made also fire to come down from heaven unto the earth, in the sight of men. 14And he seduced them that dwell on the earth, for the signs which were given him to do in the sight of the beast: saying to them that dwell on the earth that they should make the image of the beast which had the wound by the sword and lived. 15And it was given him to give life to the image of the beast: and that the image of the beast should speak: and should cause that whosoever will not adore the image of the beast should be slain.
The Mark of the Beast
16And he shall make all, both little and great, rich and poor, freemen and bondmen, to have a character in their right hand or on their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six.
If I had to guess. As nutty as this sounds. I think Prince Charles is the antichrist. In the following video all of the details of the dragons and the details of John's dream-- described in the book of Revelation are described and are applicable to Charles (Maybe William or Harry?)
Yes, I realize from Reagan and many others people have applied the antichrist title. But all of the symbolism applies to Charles or the British throne/palace of traditions.
They claim to have done the math that his name is 666.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:43 am to the808bass
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The Mark of the Beast is spiritual.
Ive always thought that the mark being specifically located on the hand and forehead symbolizes evil thoughts and evil acts. Soon all things imaginable will be possible and allowed and accepted in society. So much so that even the strongest Christian may fall to temptation.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:47 am to Herooftheday
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Ive always thought that the mark being specifically located on the hand and forehead symbolizes evil thoughts and evil acts. Soon all things imaginable will be possible and allowed and accepted in society.
Unless there is a future technology to read thoughts, how would our thoughts prevent us from having the capability to buy or sell?
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:56 am to Revelator
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I often thought about the end times, the prophecies in the book of Revelation, and the antichrist.
Why would the antichrist go with the plan that’s been written down for 2000 years and doomed to fail? Is Satan illiterate? No bibles in hell?
This post was edited on 11/14/21 at 7:57 am
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:00 am to Esquire
Is the whore of Babylon hot?
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:03 am to Esquire
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Why would the antichrist go with the plan that’s been written down for 2000 years and doomed to fail?
Why has man, for centuries chosen to do things that are harmful to his body and soul when he knows the end results?
Man, and Satan think they can somehow outwit God at the 11th hour.
It’s like how socialists continue to try and implement socialist ideas, thinking that this time it will work, despite a history of failure.
This post was edited on 11/14/21 at 8:04 am
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:03 am to the808bass
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But it will be explicitly spiritual.
And it will be after the rapture, which everyone will know has happened.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:06 am to Revelator
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Man, and Satan think they can somehow outwit God at the 11th hour.
Or God is forcing Satan to do it for the story, just like when he wouldn’t let the Pharaoh release the Jews so the plagues can be sent.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:06 am to Revelator
So you are post tribulation dispensationalist?
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:14 am to Revelator
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Having the ability to prevent one from being able to buy or sell, seems to imply explicitly that there will be some type of observable mark or system.
It can be a simple question before each transaction, or a simply company mission statement on each storefront.
Do you reject Judeo-Christian values?
Is it really far fetched to imagine that question asked by any company before you do business with them in our current era of announcing trigger warnings and the demand that I not only bend to your will but declare my support for you instead of living free?
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