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Ukraine started the war with Russia

Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10739 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:35 pm
https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-started

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While both sides accuse the other side of being the aggressor, the OSCE maps clearly show that the Ukrainian side backed by the United States and NATO forces began shelling the Russian side on February 16th, 2022. This shelling is corroborated by on-the-ground video journalism from an independent reporter named Patrick Lancaster who has been interviewing civilians in the eastern Ukrainian warzone for the last eight years.

On February 17th 2022, Lancaster reported on the increased shelling coming from the Ukrainian side and interviewed residents living along the contact line in the Donetsk region.

On February 19th, Lancaster reported on the Ukrainian military shelling two power plants knocking out electricity for multiple villages in Donetsk.

. . .

In summary, the Biden administration and U.S. political officials with the help of the corporate media are once again lying, manipulating, and deceiving the public into another war based on false pretenses.

The OSCE reports and Patrick Lancaster’s on-the-ground reporting clearly show that Ukraine began shelling the independent republics of Donetsk and Luhansk nine days before Russia announced its ‘special military operation’ in Ukraine.

The same discredited neoconservative and neoliberal establishment that lied about Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya are once again lying about Russia and Ukraine.

A diplomatic solution with Russia might have involved something as simple as demilitarization of Ukraine and a signed treaty promising Ukraine would never join NATO, but the U.S. political establishment wanted this hot proxy war with nuclear-armed Russia so they created it.

Ukraine started shelling the Russian-speaking people of the Donbas on February 16th, 2022, while Joe Biden went on television and told the American people that Russia was about to invade Ukraine.


Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2515 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:42 pm to
this conflict has been ongoing since 2014.
Posted by Brandonthepotato
Port Gobson
Member since May 2022
134 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:42 pm to
AZOV-NAZIS paid for by Soros and the DNC money laundering committee set all of this in motion for sure.

Zelenski was a 2014 coup d’etat which allowed the banana republic thrive and murder its political foes.

They poked the bear and thought the bidenmites would come running to defend their treacherous behavior.

It isn’t working out the way they thought it would.

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Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24839 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Zelenski was a 2014 coup d’etat which allowed the banana republic thrive and murder its political foes.

It was a genuine, glabalist-backed color revolution. Sadly, most people still don't realize this.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13438 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:50 pm to
BabushkaZ is all over the international news.

While the sheep in the US follow their superstar zelensky, the russian population is cheering on BabushkaZ, a grandmother in Ukraine and Russian supporter who was sporting a large Russian flag when ukranian soldiers gave her food and promptly took her flag and stomped on it, she threw the food back at them and said, my father died for that flag. Thats patriotism, not backing a bunch of money launderers who started a war to benefit their mic daddies.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5922 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:51 pm to


Head of Stratfor, ‘Private CIA,’ Says Overthrow of Yanukovych Was ‘The Most Blatant Coup in History’

Stratford
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23100 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:52 pm to
Zelenski was elected in 2019...not 2014.
Posted by Brandonthepotato
Port Gobson
Member since May 2022
134 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:00 pm to
LINK


Ukrainian AZOV-troops trapped and will have to surrender or be evacuated to the spirit world.

Wonder what foreign rats will turn up in this pile?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19291 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:19 pm to
It’s factually correct, that the Ukrainians moved a lot of their forces into the Donbas in February, and that the Ukrainians dramatically increased their shelling of the Republics that month.

I assume they were going to try and take them.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 6:20 pm
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5922 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:27 pm to
They also said if they can't join NATO they would pursue nuclear weapons.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35416 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

Zelenski was elected in 2019...not 2014.


Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35416 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

This shelling is corroborated by on-the-ground video journalism from an independent reporter named Patrick Lancaster
Well known propagandist for Putin.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12236 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:45 pm to
I don't know if it's true or not but honestly it wouldn't surprise me at all
Posted by Brandonthepotato
Port Gobson
Member since May 2022
134 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:47 pm to
You’re well known for providing AZOV-DNC led propaganda?

Nice link supporting your position…


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Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15206 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:52 pm to
Seems like a very reliable website. So did the Ukrainians start firing missiles into the country of Russia, or into the Eastern portions of Ukraine, that were controlled by Russian backed separatists?
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10739 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:42 pm to
They shelled the Donbass.

Kind of like if we decided to use artillery on a majority Hispanic community near the border, Mexico wouldn’t take too kindly to it - but in this case it’s Russia and they don’t have to sit back and take it like Mexico would have to.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23100 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:46 pm to
So they didn’t send artillery or troops into Russia, but they started the war with Russia?
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
827 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:48 pm to
Poor Russia. Always the victim!

Is this a good time to talk about the 2004 Ukrainian presidential election?
Posted by Brandonthepotato
Port Gobson
Member since May 2022
134 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:52 pm to


I thought the 2004 election was pretty solid?







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Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45315 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:52 pm to
Ukraine and Russia are like a couple in a horrible dysfunctional marriage where Ukraine is a lying slut who is a terrible mother and wife that has been sleeping around and taking money from douchebag men while Russia is a domineering brute who has begun beating the shite out of her while yelling SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO while tearing up the house and grabbing her by the hair and throwing her out the front door
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