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re: UK doctor fired for position on gender
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I just don't address them as anything but their name.
Paperwork must be a real bitch.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:55 am to Zach
Has this come up where you’ve actually acted in real life on this principal?
Or are you just in theory approving of this?
Or are you just in theory approving of this?
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:56 am to SammyTiger
quote:They are asking me to deny reality.
If someone says “I’m a woman please
Call me miss, what’s that to you?
quote:Doctors don't mark genders, they note sex. If the person is XX, they are female, if they are XY they are male. That is an indisputable fact.
If your job requires you to mark peoples gender by how they identify, again what’s that to you?
quote:This is indisputable. You're a laughable clown if you believe otherwise or enable this silliness.
The 55-year-old father of four believes sex is genetic and biological, so established at birth.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:56 am to DisplacedBuckeye
You can think you’re the King of England.
But I’m not going to call you your highness.
But I’m not going to call you your highness.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:56 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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That isn't a problem.
It's an enormous problem.
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They have their laws, and he doesn't want to follow them.
Company regs do not equal law. Granted, this is the UK who has shite on the concept of civil rights lately but anytime the government engages in compelled speech, it's a problem.
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He can find a new place to work or the people can change the laws. It's not difficult
So you'd be okay with an entity like FBI having a "Muslims need not apply" policy? Or better yet, the IRS compelling all atheist and Muslim employees to say the Our Father every morning at the outset of work?
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:57 am to Ross
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The idea that we can just identify as whatever we please and expect society to capitulate to those identities is ludicrous and is currently a path we are walking down.
It’s ludicrous just to be nice to people?
Like what is harmful to you?
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:57 am to Jyrdis
quote:In the States, agreed. In the UK, who knows?quote:I see no faulty logic here.
Dr Mackereth, who registered as a doctor in 1989 and spent most of his career working in Accident & Emergency wards, said: “I’m not attacking the transgender movement. But, I’m defending my right to freedom of speech, and freedom of belief.
“I don’t believe I should be compelled to use a specific pronoun. I am not setting out to upset anyone. But, if upsetting someone can lead to doctors being sacked then, as a society we have to examine where we are going.”
This whole idea that one commits some sort of illegal discrimination by refusing to torture the English language with non-existent words ... it is utter nonsense. If you are not denying equal protection of the law, word-choice is a matter of free speech.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:58 am to Rebel
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We are living in a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.
end times type stuff...
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:59 am to Antonio Moss
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It's an enormous problem.
No it isn't. I don't live in the UK, and have no desire to tell them how to run their own country. I don't like it when they try that with us, so why would I do that with them.
You do know that this happened in the UK, right?
quote:
Company regs do not equal law.
Nope, but law equals law. Give that article another read.
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So you'd be okay with an entity like FBI
The FBI is an agency in the US, not the UK.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:59 am to SammyTiger
His job is a doctor. Science is what doctors do.
Battling over pronouns is what twits do.
Battling over pronouns is what twits do.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:59 am to Zach
quote:What the frick?
A DWP spokeswoman said the Equality Act states that it is unlawful to discriminate directly or indirectly against a person on grounds of a “protected characteristic”, such as gender reassignment.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:00 am to SammyTiger
Their sex is indisputable. Even if he agreed with their cause, you can’t ask a baby how xe identifies.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:00 am to Rebel
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You can think you’re the King of England. But I’m not going to call you your highness.
This point is still ignorant. It doesn't get better with repetition.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:00 am to DisplacedBuckeye
the bigger question is probably what government is in charge of the place where said hospital or clinic is located.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:00 am to SammyTiger
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So he refused to do his job according to his employers guidelines. You can have a belief all you want but you also have to do your job. Poor poor NFL athletes.
FIFY
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:01 am to SammyTiger
quote:The slide towards a demand that people deny reality. It happened to this doc. The longer we allow this and other foolishness to simmer the more likely it will become accepted norms that all must acknowledge.
Like what is harmful to you?
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:01 am to Zach
The far left is so anti science it’s funny.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:02 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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You do know that this happened in the UK, right?
Yes, I noted such in my post. I can hold a principled stance that applies to governments outside the US. I also take issue with policy in Venezuela and Saudi Arabia.
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