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re: UK doctor fired for position on gender

Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:53 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71141 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:53 am to
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I just don't address them as anything but their name.


Paperwork must be a real bitch.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66368 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:55 am to
Has this come up where you’ve actually acted in real life on this principal?

Or are you just in theory approving of this?
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:56 am to
The left are science deniers.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68057 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:56 am to
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If someone says “I’m a woman please
Call me miss, what’s that to you?
They are asking me to deny reality.

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If your job requires you to mark peoples gender by how they identify, again what’s that to you?
Doctors don't mark genders, they note sex. If the person is XX, they are female, if they are XY they are male. That is an indisputable fact.

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The 55-year-old father of four believes sex is genetic and biological, so established at birth.
This is indisputable. You're a laughable clown if you believe otherwise or enable this silliness.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71141 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:56 am to
Clinics or hospitals?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131284 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:56 am to
You can think you’re the King of England.

But I’m not going to call you your highness.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48295 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:56 am to
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That isn't a problem.




It's an enormous problem.

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They have their laws, and he doesn't want to follow them.



Company regs do not equal law. Granted, this is the UK who has shite on the concept of civil rights lately but anytime the government engages in compelled speech, it's a problem.



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He can find a new place to work or the people can change the laws. It's not difficult


So you'd be okay with an entity like FBI having a "Muslims need not apply" policy? Or better yet, the IRS compelling all atheist and Muslim employees to say the Our Father every morning at the outset of work?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66368 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:57 am to
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The idea that we can just identify as whatever we please and expect society to capitulate to those identities is ludicrous and is currently a path we are walking down.


It’s ludicrous just to be nice to people?

Like what is harmful to you?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:57 am to
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Dr Mackereth, who registered as a doctor in 1989 and spent most of his career working in Accident & Emergency wards, said: “I’m not attacking the transgender movement. But, I’m defending my right to freedom of speech, and freedom of belief.

“I don’t believe I should be compelled to use a specific pronoun. I am not setting out to upset anyone. But, if upsetting someone can lead to doctors being sacked then, as a society we have to examine where we are going.”
I see no faulty logic here.
In the States, agreed. In the UK, who knows?

This whole idea that one commits some sort of illegal discrimination by refusing to torture the English language with non-existent words ... it is utter nonsense. If you are not denying equal protection of the law, word-choice is a matter of free speech.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29650 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:58 am to
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We are living in a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.



end times type stuff...
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71141 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:59 am to
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It's an enormous problem.


No it isn't. I don't live in the UK, and have no desire to tell them how to run their own country. I don't like it when they try that with us, so why would I do that with them.

You do know that this happened in the UK, right?

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Company regs do not equal law.


Nope, but law equals law. Give that article another read.

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So you'd be okay with an entity like FBI


The FBI is an agency in the US, not the UK.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64209 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:59 am to
His job is a doctor. Science is what doctors do.
Battling over pronouns is what twits do.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29412 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:59 am to
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A DWP spokeswoman said the Equality Act states that it is unlawful to discriminate directly or indirectly against a person on grounds of a “protected characteristic”, such as gender reassignment.
What the frick?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26680 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:00 am to
Their sex is indisputable. Even if he agreed with their cause, you can’t ask a baby how xe identifies.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71141 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:00 am to
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You can think you’re the King of England. But I’m not going to call you your highness.


This point is still ignorant. It doesn't get better with repetition.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67699 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:00 am to
the bigger question is probably what government is in charge of the place where said hospital or clinic is located.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:00 am to
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So he refused to do his job according to his employers guidelines. You can have a belief all you want but you also have to do your job. Poor poor NFL athletes.



FIFY

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68057 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:01 am to
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Like what is harmful to you?
The slide towards a demand that people deny reality. It happened to this doc. The longer we allow this and other foolishness to simmer the more likely it will become accepted norms that all must acknowledge.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:01 am to
The far left is so anti science it’s funny.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48295 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 10:02 am to

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You do know that this happened in the UK, right?


Yes, I noted such in my post. I can hold a principled stance that applies to governments outside the US. I also take issue with policy in Venezuela and Saudi Arabia.
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