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Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:22 pm to imjustafatkid
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Heaven forbid you be mildly inconvenienced while the police investigate a crime.
Being detained for years without a trial is “a mild inconvenience”? Yikes.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:24 pm to 4cubbies
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eing detained for years without a trial is “a mild inconvenience”? Yikes.
That's not how being detained in the context we have discussed works. If you are waiting for your trial, you have been arrested and are no longer just detained.
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:24 pm to 4cubbies
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Being detained for years without a trial is “a mild inconvenience”? Yikes.
You just make up nonsense.
That said, it is definitely interesting to see you come out in favor of the January 6 detainees.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:25 pm to 4cubbies
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Being detained for years without a trial is “a mild inconvenience”? Yikes.
Apply that logic to J6 defendants...
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:25 pm to 4cubbies
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Being detained for years without a trial is “a mild inconvenience”?
He COULD ask for a speedy trial but he hasn’t (assuming since the crime happened so long ago). Now ask yourself why?
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:27 pm to GetMeOutOfHere
AFAIK, the failure to Mirandize someone before interrogation means any statements or confessions given under that interrogation may be barred from being used in court. It’s not a get out of jail free card.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:28 pm to 4cubbies
Can his defense clowns get charged for obstruction of justice?
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:29 pm to 4cubbies
Every defense lawyer tries that.
Comes down to when he was 'in custody '
Comes down to when he was 'in custody '
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:29 pm to TidenUP
You think that poster believes in laws or morality? Don’t kid yourself, she’s 100% evil.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:30 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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He COULD ask for a speedy trial but he hasn’t (assuming since the crime happened so long ago). Now ask yourself why?
I wasn’t even thinking of this guy when i posted that. I was thinking of all the low-profile accused that are detained for years and sometimes decades without a trial.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:30 pm to 4cubbies
Why do you think this is important?
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:31 pm to TidenUP
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Apply that logic to J6 defendants...
Ok? I’ve never supported detaining protestors. Not even J6 protestors. I will always support people’s right to organize against the government.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:32 pm to Warboo
I think Cubbies is a Socialist that believes Capitalism is “Darwinian Economics “. Don’t know whether her view is religious or secular based but it certainly is morally centered. Major conflicts with millions of casualties have been fought over this SUBJECTIVE issue as there is no room for compromise given ideological polarity and that’s it’s a zero sum game.
I think there will be another inevitable major war over this volatile issue given the above dynamic. Perhaps that infamous “war to end all wars “.
The kind of unique vision required from a largely instinctual and simplistic populace to buy in and police themselves is just a bridge too far. For both the powerful and those with no power. So the personal animosity reflected in a dead end dialogue will only throw gas on the division fire.
It will take an extraordinary Power from ‘Above’ to save us from ourselves. Check is in the mail.
I think there will be another inevitable major war over this volatile issue given the above dynamic. Perhaps that infamous “war to end all wars “.
The kind of unique vision required from a largely instinctual and simplistic populace to buy in and police themselves is just a bridge too far. For both the powerful and those with no power. So the personal animosity reflected in a dead end dialogue will only throw gas on the division fire.
It will take an extraordinary Power from ‘Above’ to save us from ourselves. Check is in the mail.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:35 pm to 4cubbies
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and sometimes decades without a trial.
I am pretty sure there's only ever been one known case in the USA of someone being in jail for a decade without a trial.
You are acting like it's common.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:36 pm to 4cubbies
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AFAIK, the failure to Mirandize someone before interrogation means any statements or confessions given under that interrogation may be barred from being used in court. It’s not a get out of jail free card.
Asking someone questions before they are under arrest is not "failure to Mirandize."
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:36 pm to 4cubbies
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I was thinking of all the low-profile accused that are detained for years and sometimes decades without a trial.
They need to file a motion for a speedy trial then. It’s up to the defendant to ask for it.
Again, ask yourself why don’t they?
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:38 pm to 4cubbies
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AFAIK, the failure to Mirandize someone before interrogation means any statements or confessions given under that interrogation
You are wrong. I have arrived at a DV situation where the husband voluntarily blurts out that he didn't want to hit his wife. I had asked no questions and he made voluntary statements as to his actions. At that point, I placed him under arrest and read him his rights. His statements were fully admissible in court.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:43 pm to TidenUP
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You are wrong. I have arrived at a DV situation where the husband voluntarily blurts out that he didn't want to hit his wife. I had asked no questions and he made voluntary statements as to his actions. At that point, I placed him under arrest and read him his rights. His statements were fully admissible in court.
You weren’t interrogating him yet and you hadn’t arrested him yet. You said the magic words “He made voluntary statements”.
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:44 pm to RCDfan1950
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I think Cubbies is a Socialist that believes Capitalism is “Darwinian Economics “.
I’m just a person with ideas and questions like everyone else
Critiquing capitalism doesn’t make someone a communist or socialist.
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but it certainly is morally centered
The big guy told us to look out for the least of us.
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It will take an extraordinary Power from ‘Above’ to save us from ourselves.
Maybe we are supposed to be the extraordinary power from above? His hands and feet.
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