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re: UHC exec killer wasn’t read rights before questioning and warranties search conducted?

Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10412 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:18 pm to
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The government brings the charges against a defendant. The government provides the prosecution of the defendant. And you want the government to deliver the verdict.

What could go wrong?


So by that logic the government shouldn't provide counsel either.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58977 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:19 pm to
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People are stupid.


quote:

I would rather a professional t


A Professional what? Would this professional not be a person?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37761 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:19 pm to
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Have you even read the digital forensics they have against him?

I’m not saying he’s not guilty; I think he is.

Even serial killers are afforded Miranda rights. It’s the law.
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 10:21 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58977 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:20 pm to
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So by that logic the government shouldn't provide counsel either.


Touché.

I’m still not on board with pro juries though.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179315 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:20 pm to
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A Professional what? Would this professional not be a person



Don't be obtuse. I wouldn't let a bus driver perform surgery on me.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10412 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:21 pm to
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I’m still not on board with pro juries though


I understand.

I can't argue with the charge of potential conflict of interest; it's a legit fear.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58977 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:22 pm to
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Why?


That state wasn’t confident they could prove he stole the backpack, I’m assuming.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62566 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:26 pm to
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Being detained for years without a trial is “a mild inconvenience”? Yikes.


quote:

Kalief Browder was held at Rikers Island jail for about three years without a trial after he was accused of stealing a backpack.



If you don't know how these two things aren't the same, you're a moron.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58977 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:26 pm to
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you would have people educated in the law deciding legal matters


You want juries made up of only lawyers because it takes a law degree to look at evidence and determine if someone is telling the truth?

It would make more sense to argue that juries should be made up of only psychologists.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10412 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:28 pm to
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You want juries made up of only lawyers


No.

The concept would be some kind of associate's degree.

It's a program that doesn't yet exist.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19396 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:29 pm to
It’s doubtful he wasn’t read his rights. I would not believe that
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62566 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:29 pm to
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You have to be more specific and say something like, "I am invoking my constitutional right to remain silent and have an attorney present during questioning," or something of that nature.


Really you don't even have to do that. You can simply say "I don't answer questions" or "I'd like to speak to an attorney" or what you said.

But then you also have to shut up and stop talking.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
575 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:30 pm to
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You want juries made up of only lawyers because it takes a law degree to look at evidence and determine if someone is telling the truth?


You need to be able to determine guilt or innocence as defined by the law not if they’re telling the truth.

Ffs
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33352 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:30 pm to
Why do posters keep engaging this SFP alter?

It plays the same game, that he does. Baiting posters into constantly re-engaging to his posts. 4cubbies has posted 63 times in just this thread alone. Sixty three!! Thats 1/4 of the posts in here

Just let it die already
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10412 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:31 pm to
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Really you don't even have to do that. You can simply say "I don't answer questions" or "I'd like to speak to an attorney" or what you said.


I'm not an attorney, so I could be wrong, but I have read that courts have ruled in a least some cases against the invocation of rights with statements like, "I don't answer questions."
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62566 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:32 pm to
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I'm not an attorney, so I could be wrong, but I have read that courts have ruled in a least some cases against the invocation of rights with statements like, "I don't answer questions."


Oh yeah for sure. That's not an invocation of your rights. You just aren't compelled to speak even if you don't invoke.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10412 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:33 pm to
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SFP alter


A-woo-woo.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58977 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:35 pm to
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You need to be able to determine guilt or innocence as defined by the law n


And knowledge of laws is how this is determined? It has nothing to do with evidence or testimony?

Ffs.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
575 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:36 pm to
How many times have you been divorced
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58977 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:39 pm to
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A-woo-woo.


Rude.
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