re: UAP /paranormal primer: essential information for what is to come

https://bigthink.com/the-past/did-extraterrestrials-visit-ancient-sumer/

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Did extraterrestrials visit ancient Sumer? Venerated astrophysicist Carl Sagan entertained the possibility.

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Sagan then described the legend of Oannes from Sumer, the earliest known civilization in the historical region of southern Mesopotamia, which flourished between roughly 4500 and 1900 BC.

Numerous ancient writers tell of a creature named Oannes, rising from a part of the Persian Gulf that bordered Babylonia, whose “whole body… was like that of a fish; and had under a fish’s head another head, and also feet below, similar to those of a man, subjoined to the fish’s tail.”

According to the legend, Oannes bestowed upon the early Sumerians “insight into letters, and sciences, and every kind of art. He taught them to construct houses, to found temples, to compile laws, and explained to them the principles of geometrical knowledge.”

Other creatures in the likeness of Oannes are referenced in other ancient accounts, returning to check up on the Sumerians. They are called Apkallu. “Sumerian civilization is depicted by the descendants of the Sumerians themselves to be of non-human origin,” Sagan commented. “A succession of strange creatures appears over the course of several generations. Their only apparent purpose is to instruct mankind. Each knows of the mission and accomplishments of his predecessors.” Notably, the Apkallu are never described as gods.

Again, Sagan recognized that talk of extraterrestrials in ancient Sumer was all just speculation, lacking the grand evidence necessary to substantiate such a bold claim. “A completely convincing demonstration of past contact with an extraterrestrial civilization will always be difficult to provide on textual grounds alone,” he wrote. “But stories like the Oannes legend, and representations especially of the earliest civilizations on the Earth, deserve much more critical studies than have been performed heretofore, with the possibility of direct contact with an extraterrestrial civilization as one of the many possible alternative interpretations.”

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Sagan was limited by the following:

-he assumed he was studying a natural process (forensic mindset needed)
-that the others were “visitors” from somewhere else
-that the other were smarter/more advanced than humanity (also deceptive)

When the tale above is reframed through the ultraterrestrial viewpoint, it makes a whole bunch more sense. The “head within a fish head” description of their appearance seems to denote a suit that they were using. Perhaps they chose to use the seafaring mode of their transmedium transport as if detected by early people, they would be somewhat familiar with this mode of travel. The suit worn may have been to get them from their offshore transport to the shore

Who are the others and why the deception?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EBp1UOZ5yNM

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The Fall of Atlantis - ROBERT SEPEHR

Robert Sepehr 8.7K Likes 137,199 Views Sep 15 2022

The "myth" of Atlantis, as passed down via Plato, is an ancient Egyptian tale who's genesis occurred so far back in history that according to the Egyptian priests of Sais the classical Greeks could not even recollect it.

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In my opinion, at the root of the deception and secrecy surrounding all of this is the periodic, cataclysmic destruction of most of surface life on planet earth (via bollide impact or cosmic events - I have many separate threads about this, but notice recent news about NASA redirecting bollides…). These others are survivors from prior cataclysms who seem to have an interest in sustaining surface life upon reboots. The big secrets may be

-that the others manipulated our DNA /guided humanity’s development

-that the others are in part responsible for many religions

-that there is an impending cataclysm (the real con behind “climate change” as the con men selling it have to speak in partial truths) and there’s not much that we as humanity can do about it nor perhaps them…

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impending cataclysm

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This has to do with CERN and the ozone layer being destroyed by the activity there.

... speaking of which

has anything new being reported coming out of CERN?

Eric Weinstein was recently briefed by Luis Elizondo. The video below goes through a question and answer session that Weinstein posted on Twitter

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2jx4rPWPWrc

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Lue Elizondo Briefs Eric Weinstein on UFOs ??
Post Disclosure World 1.2K Likes 14,233 Views Oct 15 2022

Eric Weinstein gets a UFO briefing by Lue Elizondo. I provide what I know.

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Summary:

Weinstein appears to acknowledge credibility to the information that is coming out

Weinstein expresses frustration with the process but acknowledges its necessity

He implies that there’s a pending timeline for some sort of revelation to the world (soon, very near future)

When asked what disciplines to study Weinstein includes in his extensive list: cult programming and mind control…

My commentary:

I think this is headed towards a massive, forced “admissions and reconciliation” type set up. I think that whatever they have been sitting on they have kept suppressed for the better part of 70 /80+ years. I think it will come to be known that humanity is 100 years behind where we should be. I feel some have suppressed this to maintain status quo for large institution in the financial, energy, technological sectors…

We live in a very controlled construct (as many in this and my other threads already sensed)

Regarding above, still listening to a long form interview that suggests purposeful suppression of advancement by the usual suspects (defense contractors)

https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/exclusive-more-ufo-hearings-are-coming-as-whistleblowers-are-called-forward-and-legacy-programs-are-verified-by-congress

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Exclusive: More UFO Hearings Are Coming As Whistleblowers Are Called Forward And Legacy Programs Are Verified By Congress

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Some insiders have told Liberation Times that new UAP whistleblower language could be signed into law “in weeks” and after upcoming midterm elections.

Corbell comments: “The Silver Bullet is coming.”

Once National Defense Authorization Act 2023 becomes law, it is expected that public Congressional hearings will take place, and whistleblowers have already been requested to testify. It has also been confirmed by multiple sources that information relating to alleged secretive UAP retrieval and reverse-engineering programs has now been verified by Congress.

There is now some urgency from Congress to provide transparency and some insiders hope that any released information can potentially bring people together at a time when the likelihood of nuclear conflict has risen.

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The Reagan view of unification from a threat from others…

That OUR Navy says..."no we can't show further pics of UAP's due to National Security" is such a uncovered by the press joke and most just shrug.
Like is there a mountain range you just cannot blue out?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ndPdgyWIPcU

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Steven Greer on UAPs, CE5, Skinwalker Ranch, and Disinformation

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal 5.3K Likes 174,826 Views Oct 14 2022

Dr. Steven Greer is known for his views / knowledge on the UFO subject. Note: The views / message of the guest aren't those of myself (Curt) or TOE. This applies to every guest, and not just this one.

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Greer is a polarizing figure (similar to Lazar)

For those who invoke the “these things are ours”, you should be interested in what he has to say. “Ours” gets pretty complicated as it really implies ownership by the shadow government…

Interesting comments on:

Shadow government vs the government of we the people (not really ours)
Suppressed technology by the shadow government
Fake alien narrative from the shadow government

Elizondo is a fraud, as is Nick Pope. Pope was a Secretary in a department that forwarded calls to the real ufo office. They have the logs and documents to prove it. Notice how he doesn’t claim to be the head of Uk’s ufo program anymore. Lue was a paper pusher as well, who moved many places in the military and was involved in no action. He has fantastical and grandiose stories about his role. It’s all exposed in a documentary, Who is Lue. The docs he submitted for those 3 navy fleer ufo’s had drones as descriptions (although you could argue it was a way to cover up). He’s just another guy in the military or any industry that had interest in ufo’s and was involved in a program that identified enemy aircraft. People in those positions would be aware of some ufo activity. He doesn’t know anything. He has very limited understanding of ufo history and it shows.

Lazar was a glorified electrician who didn’t even build those rocket cars. It was his neighbor who worked at an aerospace company. Everything else about his story completely falls apart. He is not credible. Greer, while doing great work in the 90’s and 2000’s with the disclosure project, is an absolute fraud now, defrauding everyone selling an app claiming you can summon UFO’s. He has like 5 documentaries that are all just rehashes of everything from the others (usually with a new made up teaser).

Don’t even get me started on Wilcock, whose lies and failed predictions finally caught up with him. Ths guy has one of the biggest loser pasts I’ve ever read about. He blew all his money trying to build a free energy hover car, stealing a few million (maybe) in donations lol. It takes billions and the best scientific minds. Speaking of, Pais is fos and his papers are pseudoscience. Wilcock has been caught defrauding people before. He actually started his own religion to avoid paying taxes. That got shut down. Everything involved in the SSP on Gaia is utter made up bs. Gaia’s owner admitted it. Trailer Park Corey Goode still has a website. His make believe stories just get worse and worse. It’s hilarious if you listen to them. Let’s see, the Travis Walton abduction was a hoax and I used to believe it. Seriously, do a deep dive into it. Travis and his friend, the driver, fooled everyone. Read the description of what they saw. It’s the exact description of the fire tower lit up at night. There’s been fights recently over money and the driver threatened to expose the lie if Travis didn’t pay up.

Linda Mouton Howe, while doing good early work on cattle mutilations, has been exposed as a Fraud of late. The Antarctica stuff is bs. She needs money I guess. Saw a documentary once where she cried about being duped by CIA types. That’s the problem with these researchers. They have to keep coming up with material. Have you seen the diagram of UFO’s over the decades? They look like futuristic UFO’s people would make up at the time. A huge red flag. The only guy I like is Dolan, and he even got caught recently being duped by a fake alien photo and was involved in that press conference with the fake little alien in one of Greer’s documentaries (but he didn’t know at the time). Dolan stuck to historical and government stuff for he longest time until about 5 years ago, where he started going into more exotic stuff like abductions. I think his remote viewing wife had something to do with it. His YT channel talks mostly about the corrupt takeover by globalists now, and he’s spot on.

Stay far away from that Mexican ufo guy, Jaime Maussan. He’s the dumbest guy in he field. Sells so many fakes.

TTSA defrauded people out of millions. Not sure why they haven’t been sued. That press conference they ad was in an empty building. Just more people interested in UFO’s trying to make moves; perhaps being used by government entities for some reason.

Having said all that, I’m still a believer, although I’ve gone back and forth several times. There are just way too many charlatans. Too much bs. I still like reading about it. YT researchers have done a great job exposing everything. It’s blowing up everyone’s schemes and causing fights

There’s a lot more and I apologize if I ruined some things for people, but truth matters. It’s a fun field to follow anyway. At the end of the day, all you have is a bunch of claims and mountains of documents from government proving they took it seriously. Serious enough to infiltrate the ufo community and destroy and slander and institutionalize anyone getting too close

Sorry if this has already been posted.

Pilots describe UFO incidents over the Pacific

Interesting article but also contains a lengthy video. Credible sources.

Nice first post.

I have a few issues with it, but overall pretty good.

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Linda Mouton Howe, while doing good early work on cattle mutilations, has been exposed as a Fraud of late. The Antarctica stuff is bs. 

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Disagree pretty strongly. We don't know what's going on down there, but something definitely is going on down there.

I also tend to disagree about Bob Lazar. Yeah, a lot of his stuff people have determined to be untruthful - his background - but as time has drug on, many aspects of Lazar's story seem to have proven themselves true.

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TTSA defrauded people out of millions. Not sure why they haven’t been sued. That press conference they ad was in an empty building. Just more people interested in UFO’s trying to make moves; perhaps being used by government entities for some reason.

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TTSA, while not to be trusted, has done more to advance disclosure than any other group or individual in history.

Beware their bedfellows though. John Podesta was one of the first on board. This tells me that while they're advancing some stuff, in the end they're going to be selling lies.

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There’s a lot more and I apologize if I ruined some things for people, but truth matters.

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I agree with a lot of what you said, but I don't expect you know any more truth on this subject than any of the rest of us who have been studying this for decades now. Do I have the truth? Absolutely not. Still looking for it.

Look forward to seeing more of your posts on this subject.