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re: UAP /paranormal primer: essential information for what is to come
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:21 pm to BoarEd
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:21 pm to BoarEd
Camila Cabello UFO video on The Tonight Show
Obviously, it should be taken with a grain of salt considering it's coming from Hollywood. But let's have some fun by assuming the story is true and the video is legitimate. Not bad considering all the "official" videos we've seen over the last few years. What's y'all's take?
Obviously, it should be taken with a grain of salt considering it's coming from Hollywood. But let's have some fun by assuming the story is true and the video is legitimate. Not bad considering all the "official" videos we've seen over the last few years. What's y'all's take?
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:11 pm to Herbert
Regarding Bob Lazar, I believe there has been a concerted effort to discredit him by TPTB for whatever reason, but those efforts include the FBI raiding his home and business on multiple occasions, looking for "something".
As far as Los Alamos is concerned, you are right about there being many people that work/worked there, that are not rocket scientist, like ME, for instance. It is a small place on top of a mountain and the road in is the same road out. It does a big circle around the town. First thing you see when driving in is the Holliday Inn. There are thousands of people that work there though.
I would often stay in Sante Fe when I went there. Strange place when you look around past the Adobe buildings in the center, where you can buy all the beads and baskets you want. A bunch of "snobs", that had empty wine bottles lined up in front of thier houses, to be replaced with full ones, the next day, or so. Kind of like the milk man would do in days gone by. Just something I noticed. They do have a nice Holliday Inn though.
As far as Los Alamos is concerned, you are right about there being many people that work/worked there, that are not rocket scientist, like ME, for instance. It is a small place on top of a mountain and the road in is the same road out. It does a big circle around the town. First thing you see when driving in is the Holliday Inn. There are thousands of people that work there though.
I would often stay in Sante Fe when I went there. Strange place when you look around past the Adobe buildings in the center, where you can buy all the beads and baskets you want. A bunch of "snobs", that had empty wine bottles lined up in front of thier houses, to be replaced with full ones, the next day, or so. Kind of like the milk man would do in days gone by. Just something I noticed. They do have a nice Holliday Inn though.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:40 pm to LookSquirrel
May as well add this from the Daily Mail today.
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EXCLUSIVE: Dramatic videos of UFOs over the Pacific are revealed, as expert pilots describe seeing bright lights moving in 'race track' circles over the summer - but say their employers told them to keep quiet
LINK
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:17 pm to Herbert
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I’m not aware of anything about lazar that turned out to be true
He was right about element 115. When he made those claims people didn't even believe it to exist. It's since proven to be real. The question is whether or not it can be used as fuel. But I still chalk that up as a hit for Lazar.
He also appears to have been correct about how they propel themselves with gravity generators rather than anti-gravity. This is evidenced in the USS Nimitz "tictac" video.
All that stuff about his background I don't even bother with. I'more concerned with the technical aspects of what he claims about the UFOs themselves. That will tell you more than anything else. Does he have receipts. And it appears he does.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 11:27 pm to BoarEd
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He was right about element 115. When he made those claims people didn't even believe it to exist. It's since proven to be real.
Not only is that false, it suggests you don't know much about science. And I'm not saying that to be rude, it's just an objective truth.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 11:30 pm to TigersN_Beer
What should we need to know?
Posted on 10/21/22 at 11:53 pm to CCT
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What should we need to know?
How the periodic table of elements works. And I promise I'm not trying to be condescending, I can explain it to you if you'd like or you can research how heavier elements are synthesized and added to the table.
But what should really bother the Lazar believers is that Scientific American published a magazine a few weeks prior to his Knapp interview with an article featuring--you guessed it--element 115. And LONG before Lazar's 115 nonsense, scientists were vigorously discussing how to synthesize elements 95-118.
Lazar did not predict anything and what he did claim about element 115 has so far proven to be false, though that doesn't necessarily mean new discoveries could prove him right (they won't, though, so don't hold your breath).
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 10/22/22 at 12:15 am to TigersN_Beer
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But what should really bother the Lazar believers is that Scientific American published a magazine a few weeks prior to his Knapp interview with an article featuring--you guessed it--element 115
Source?
And yes, I realize that element 115 is synthesized.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 4:34 am to BoarEd
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Source?
And yes, I realize that element 115 is synthesized.
LINK
SA featured article in the May 1989 edition, it was published approx. 2-4 weeks before Lazar's interview with Knapp. You can only see the first page but it's an easy extrapolation from there. IIRC, they focused more on 114 as it's much more stable than 115, but the point that Lazar is almost certainly full of shite remains the same.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 4:38 am
Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:07 am to TigersN_Beer
Yea, most people believe he took the element 115 thing from popular science magazine. It was already being discussed.
People are still guessing about this. If we knew, we wouldn’t be using 80 year old technology. There is still large debate on how they are propelled. I just listened to an astrophysicist a month ago claim the electromagnetic claims are garbage. That was probably the most condescending interview I will ever see. Astrophysicists are a different breed. He claims he knows how to do it essentially and the dumb young scientists need to listen to him. I forget his name, but he’s in the club with the rest of the famous guys. It’s weird seeing these types mix it up with regulars on YouTube
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He also appears to have been correct about how they propel themselves with gravity generators rather than anti-gravity
People are still guessing about this. If we knew, we wouldn’t be using 80 year old technology. There is still large debate on how they are propelled. I just listened to an astrophysicist a month ago claim the electromagnetic claims are garbage. That was probably the most condescending interview I will ever see. Astrophysicists are a different breed. He claims he knows how to do it essentially and the dumb young scientists need to listen to him. I forget his name, but he’s in the club with the rest of the famous guys. It’s weird seeing these types mix it up with regulars on YouTube
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 5:18 am
Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:15 am to LookSquirrel
Looks like meteors on a low angle path. Bright at first but then dimming to nothing .
Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:39 am to Herbert
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Yea, most people believe he took the element 115 thing from popular science magazine. It was already being discussed.
His story gets even more ludicrous, he claims he took a sample of a stable element 115 home and videotaped its otherworldly properties.
Conveniently, the VHS tape showing this hard evidence was lost by Knapp, who is either one of the most credulous people on the planet or a pathological liar, like Lazar. And, big shocker here, Bob never produced the sample of 115... you know, the ONE thing that would have cemented at least most of his story as true.
There's a lot, LOT more that paints Bob in a terrible light, like the apparent suicide of his first wife 2 days after he got married to his now ex-wife (who has publicly called him a conman), and how he never divorced the deceased one.
How anyone can find this guy credible is a mystery to me, the world is truly full of gullible fools.
Edit: I just saw your post on the prior page, sounds like you are already aware of most or all of this.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 5:48 am
Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:49 am to TigersN_Beer
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SA featured article in the May 1989 edition, it was published approx. 2-4 weeks before Lazar's interview with Knapp
Awesome. Thanks.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:55 am to Herbert
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People are still guessing about this. If we knew, we wouldn’t be using 80 year old technology.
I'll see if I can dig up the Nimitz analysis video that I based my comments on a little bit later. I don't know if I'll be able to find it though. But the guy producing the video didn't say one word about Lazar. He simply noted what he figured to be gravitational effects that the craft produced ahead of the craft in the direction the craft wanted to move. As if the craft were creating miniature, stable black holes that were drawing the craft in whatever direction the craft needed to go. It was fascinating and Lazar's story was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw that.
I used to dismiss Lazar myself, but lately I've been reconsidering it all.
Glad to see that about 115 being in the literature before his claims. I've probably come across that previously but forgotten it.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 6:15 am to BoarEd
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Awesome. Thanks.
Anytime!
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I used to dismiss Lazar myself, but lately I've been reconsidering it all.
And don't take my "gullible fools" comment personally, that wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I've been trying to find every reason to believe Lazar's story since the early 90's. I still want to believe him, perhaps even desperately, but the number of red flags has grown to the point that I'm convinced he is a pathological liar.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 6:17 am
Posted on 10/22/22 at 6:47 am to TigersN_Beer
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And don't take my "gullible fools" comment personally,
No worries. I get called way worse than that around here regularly.
I'm anxious to see how this all plays out though, because I do believe we are going to get disclosure very soon. The question will be, can we believe the story they're feeding us? Personally I think the deep state is hoping to launch Project Blue Beam in the near future.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 6:51 am to TigersN_Beer
Funny thing is, I generally dismissed him out of hand. From the very start (or when I first heard of him)
Then I saw (I believe it was) a Netflix doc on him and his story. Some things he claimed initially he'd seen ended up being pretty spot on. Like the ID process for getting into the facility. He mentioned that years before anything had been made public. Also, lots of the so called 'red flags' about his education claims actually make sense, considering how the gov acts to erase some things.
Not saying I buy into 100% of his story, but I think there's something to them.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 7:07 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Then I saw (I believe it was) a Netflix doc on him and his story. Some things he claimed initially he'd seen ended up being pretty spot on. Like the ID process for getting into the facility. He mentioned that years before anything had been made public.
The exact same device is used in Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which predates Bob's story by about a decade.
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Also, lots of the so called 'red flags' about his education claims actually make sense, considering how the gov acts to erase some things.
They don't make any sense whatsoever. He can't name any professors or peers from 2 of the most prestigious institutes on the planet that he claims to have attended, and the 1 he did finally name turned out to be a professor from a community college he dropped out of in California.
He claims to have an MS degree but can't produce it. I seriously doubt people that get a Masters from Cal Tech misplace their diploma but it isn't impossible, so he gets a small pass there. However, coupled with being unable to name a single class, professor and student/peer, as well as not remembering what year he graduated, makes his whole education story look absurd.
And his MIT timeline doesn't add up, I forget the specifics because it's eye-rollingly stupid but I can get back to you on that one if you wish.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 7:10 am
Posted on 10/22/22 at 7:25 am to TigersN_Beer
If you asked me to name some of my college professors, I would probably come up empty as well. If you asked me if so-and-so was your professor, I may recognize the name 
So did our government copy something from a movie? OR… had it been in use well before & the movie just copied it? And was that information about it being used at area 51 only come out years later? I’m a little fuzzy on the details here.
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The exact same device is used in Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which predates Bob's story by about a decade.
So did our government copy something from a movie? OR… had it been in use well before & the movie just copied it? And was that information about it being used at area 51 only come out years later? I’m a little fuzzy on the details here.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 7:33 am
Posted on 10/22/22 at 8:38 am to Herbert
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Herbert
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There’s a lot more and I apologize if I ruined some things for people, but truth matters.
This guy fu*ks!
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