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re: UAP /paranormal primer: essential information for what is to come

Posted on 7/11/22 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 1:46 pm to
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Elizondo also released a statement that humanity/civilzation may be about to go through a paradig change (will link it here later)



Yep, TP. Kinda reminds me of Einstein's reply to what manner of weaponry will be employed in WWIII: "I don't know what weaponry will be employed in WWIII, but WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones".

For sure there will be radical change pretty soon. For those that have experienced real and powerful Love (a Feeling/Spirit) we can barely but surely imagine what Perfect Unity/Love would encompass; as such it is not hard to be optimistic re Faith that such Perfect Unity/Love/God truly exists as THE SOURCE of all that is. Good enough to make my day...and life.

"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood...".



Hmmm, aside...I'm wondering when the "cheers BROTHA" emoji will be whacked. Gotta happen.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 1:48 pm to
TPA you gonna give these figs a seizure.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 2:00 pm to
Elizondo’s statement:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v1peRrNyJyM&t=1h19m30s&feature=youtu.be

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Brazil UFO hearings Exclusive, Travis Taylor, Tom DeLonge & more || The Breakdown - That UFO Podcast


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RCDfan1950


Check this out
Very much sounds like a shamanic experience…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=449SKPUr03Y

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Travis Taylor - 4
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Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:31 pm to
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The green triangles are airplanes that look like triangles because of the parallax effect from the camera. The blinking light gives it away. Also, the other triangles are stars. On top of all that, several people have reproduced the same footage using the same camera at night on planes.


That is such a strange case. First according to Jeremy Corbell its flying pyramids, then according to Mick West its stars and planes, then according to the UAP hearing its drones. Now Corbell is coming back saying he has testimony by crew of multiple encounters over several weeks with as many as 100 of these "drones" swarming their ships. I'd really really to hear from the crews that witnessed these objects. As so often is the case there appears to be separate incidents that get meld into one cover story and then packaged for public consumption.

Daily Mail

LINK

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The Drive highlighted the description of the craft as 'quadcopter style UAS' in reports released by the Navy.


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But a senior staffer at a US defense contractor who is an expert in military technology told DailyMail.com they believed the craft that hovered above the Russell were 'much more advanced' than a traditional drone.

The contractor, who asked not to be named due to their job's sensitivity, said modified quadcopters can fly as high as 30,000ft but only for short periods.

'The best quadcopter battery lasts an hour or so,' the source said. 'Climbing four miles takes time, and once the vehicle reached that altitude it would struggle to maintain a fixed or slow-moving position over the ship as the wind speed increased.'

Footage of a radar screen detecting a swarm over the USS Omaha in July 2019 shows nine drones moving up to 138 knots (more than 158 miles an hour) with winds of 31 knots.

'Maintaining position under such conditions would increase the energy burn and greatly limit the time on target to just a few minutes, especially considering the quadcopter has to return to its point of origin. In addition, the reports mentioned the vehicle was illuminated, further increasing its power drain,' the defense contractor added.

The military tech expert said top quadcopters have a maximum range of about seven miles, meaning their launch site would have to be near the warships.

'The vessel would have been easily detected as well as the launch of the quadcopter,' they said.

'Considering these limitations, I don't think the illuminated vehicle that hovered four miles above the ship for a prolonged period could have been a traditional quadcopter. They just don't have the range or the staying power. It had to be a much more advanced aircraft.'
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 4:35 pm to
i ain't reading no stinking 24 pages but i'm pretty sure the correct answer is....it ain't aliens.

us humans are all over the globe in the weirdest places with 4K cameras. its been that way for decades and zero high quality footage is the result. if there were aliens we would've found em already.

the best explanation (but still quite implausible) i've heard about those gravity defying UFOs everyone's talking about is from that congressman (can't remember his name) that was a guest on the pat mcafee show....the dude said it could be us from the future. i can believe that more than 'aliens'.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 5:36 pm to
Interdimensional travelers, maybe.

Aliens, sure. But still no evidence. Nothing physical.

It's not our tech. Not 'human' tech, at least.

I know the US Gov want to mind frick everyone into thinking its top secret stuff, but they can't tell us, because then the other countries will know... BS. No one has a clue. And that right there is reason enough to be concerned.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 6:29 pm to
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show....the dude said it could be us from the future. i can believe that more than 'aliens'.


Why? Either idea is possible but what makes you think one is more plausible?
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 8:56 pm to
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Why? Either idea is possible but what makes you think one is more plausible?


because time travel is factually theoretically possible.

with current advances in AI and quantum mechanics, its very feasible that our military discovered how to perform time travel in the future and are sending things back to test them out.

super intelligent aliens playing hide and seek with us, on the other hand, seems more like a construct of human imagination...not unlike ghosts or monsters. we have no evidence that such things exist...we just hope (or fear) that they do.


Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 3:29 pm to
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That's absolutely one legit take. But even so -- wasn't his about aliens statement to prove his point at the time still very odd? 40 years later and his words well in the rearview mirror -- considering the irony these days (talk of "Aliens") -- Reagan's analogy *can* be questioned with some measure of cynicism (moreover -- we should realize that The Gipper may not have agree with what he said; it was written FOR him.) quote: The left and the establishment took the ball and ran with it. They envisioned something entirely different. As usual. Lunatics. Even then.


This politicalization is what fuels skepticism. The conspicuous worship of brand names, icons and individuals results in the need for contrived and irrational narratives to reconcile obvious contradictions. The reason for the incongruity is truth.

The same qualities that helped Ronald Reagan to become an actor, announcer and pitchman also benefited him in becoming a respected politician and statesman. He wasn’t a great philosopher, thinker or prophet. He was definitely part of “the establishment”.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 3:34 pm to
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-votes-to-make-it-easier-to-report-ufos/ar-AAZxJAY

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House votes to make it easier to report UFOs

By Bryan Bender and Lawrence Ukenye - Yesterday 4:16 PM


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The House on Wednesday voted to create a secure government system for reporting UFOs and to compel current and former officials to reveal what they might know about the mysterious phenomena by promising to protect them from reprisal.

The bipartisan amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, passed by voice vote without debate, is part of an aggressive effort to exert more oversight over an enduring intelligence-gathering challenge that has gained more attention in recent years.

It was proposed by Reps. Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.) and Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.), who have been among a vocal bipartisan bloc of lawmakers pressing Pentagon and intelligence officials to take the issue more seriously — and to be more transparent with Congress and the American people.


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Luis Elizondo, the former Pentagon official who went public in 2017 asserting a lack of concern among top leaders, called the Gallagher-Gallego amendment “one of the greatest efforts in recent history to foster transparency on this topic.”

“This legislation may open the floodgates,” added Elizondo, who is now a consultant to the U.S. Space Command on UAP.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:22 pm to
https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/revisiting-1947-the-inside-story-on-new-congressional-language-which-could-reshape-history-as-concerns-persist-over-continued-involvement-of-lue-elizondos-former-office

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Revisiting 1947: The Inside Story On New Congressional Language Which Could Reshape History


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New proposed Congressional language featured within the latest versions of the National Defense Authorization Act and Intelligence Authorization Act are on course to prise open a Pandora’s Box of U.S. government and contractor UFO secrets, a box slammed firmly shut since 1947. Getting to this moment has not been straightforward though. Frustrated by obfuscation, Congress’s hand has been forced to escalate efforts.

Speaking to Liberation Times, Lue Elizondo, the former Director of the Pentagon's previous UAP investigation named AATIP, attributed bipartisan efforts and Christopher Mellon, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, as major factors behind new Congressional language.

One source has told Liberation Times, “behind closed doors, lawmakers have met with current and former government insiders who have provided multi-source and verifiable information that has shaped the language we are seeing today.” Notably, something appears to have escaped Pandora’s Box, forcing politicians to contemplate the repercussions of a moment akin to the Church Commission of 1975. Decisions of what and when to reveal to the public will be at the discretion of Congress, the Executive Branch, international allies and partners, and will mean existing political agendas will be turned upside down.

Despite the bullish atmosphere surrounding the new language, concerns remain regarding the potential future role of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security (OUSD(I&S)), which was home to the failed Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group. Sources believe the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) would be a more effective option for heading a UAP Office. Liberation Times can also now confirm through various sources that Elizondo is a contractor for the Space Force.

First came the Gallagher and Gallego House amendments for the National Defense Authorization Act 2023 (NDAA) establishing proposed immunity language, providing protection to Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena (UAP) whistleblowers.


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Notably, something appears to have escaped Pandora’s Box, forcing politicians to contemplate the repercussions of a moment akin to the Church Commission of 1975, which led to the very creation of the same Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that helped draft the current IAA language.

Back in 1975, U.S. government reforms were prompted by abuses of power from U.S. intelligence agencies, leading to shocking revelations such as Operation MKULTRA, involving the drugging and torture of U.S. citizens.

It may be inevitable that the potential discovery of alleged secretive and illegal UAP programs could lead to similar significant reforms within the U.S. government.

If proven, it is likely such programs date back decades.


Programs are likely nested in private defense contractors (avoiding oversight, profiting by slowly back engineering/releasing…)

Was Ike’s MIC warning from awareness of this situation?

Remember that DoD, MIC, and CIA were all created in 1947 (important date):

July 7, 1947 - Roswell incident
July 26, 1947 - National Security State begins…

https://isgp-studies.com/ufo-history-timeline

Current legislation is looking to scrutinize records dating back to Jan 1, 1947
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:37 pm to
https://www.defensenews.com/battlefield-tech/space/2022/07/20/pentagon-renames-ufo-office-expands-mission-to-include-transmedium-objects/

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Pentagon renames UFO office, expands mission to include ‘transmedium’ objects


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On Wednesday, the Pentagon announced that it renamed and expanded the authority of the government’s chief UFO office. Formerly known as the Airborne Object Identification and Management Group, the office will now be known as the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO.


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With the new name comes increased responsibilities, the Defense Department said in a statement. While the group was mostly focused on airborne and threats in space, the renamed office will also look into unidentified objects that are submerged in water or deemed “transmedium.” Transmedium typically refers to the ability of an object to fly across multiple environments. For example, an object could be considered “transmedium” if it could fly through Earth’s atmosphere in addition to another environment, such as space or underwater.


Watch the water
Don’t be domain dependent (Taleb)
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3754 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:43 pm to


Whatever happened during those earthquakes that hit the Sandwich Islands back in Aug 14-15, 2021?

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42486 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 8:42 pm to
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us humans are all over the globe in the weirdest places with 4K cameras. its been that way for decades and zero high quality footage is the result. if there were aliens we would've found em already.


Logic would dictate that IF there are aliens present on Earth that their means of travel would likely exceed the speed of light.

If so, then a 4K camera aint gonna do.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 8:47 pm to
They god they are renaming stuff. Now we can really learn some new names and things.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 10:02 pm to

Plato says that justice is not mere strength, but it is a harmonious strength. Justice is not the right of the stronger but the effective harmony of the whole. All moral conceptions revolve about the good of the whole-individual as well as social.

In Book 2 of Plato’s Republic, Socrates concludes his elenchus with Thrasymachus. After doing so, Glaucon responds that he is unpleased with Socrates’ performance. Comparing Thrasymachus to a snake that Socrates had merely charmed, Glaucon presents a challenge to Socrates. Glaucon asks, “Do you want to seem to have persuaded us, Socrates, that it is better in every way to be just rather than unjust, or do you want to really persuade us” (Plato 36).

After Socrates says he truly wants to persuade his friends, Glaucon renews Thrasymachus’ argument. Glaucon wants to hear “what justice and injustice are, and what power each has when it is just by itself in the soul”
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3474 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 10:20 pm to
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This would account for the current phenomena in the sky messing with militaries and nukes. It is not necessarily a nation state in control of these things. I find this a fascinating perspective to consider.

Hail Hydra???




Hail Hydra
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 10:25 pm to
Corbel is full of shite. He’s been exposed
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:53 pm to
https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/the-senates-intelligence-committee-criticises-pentagon-as-ufos-exponentially-increase-whilst-making-clear-that-new-office-will-not-investigate-man-made-objects

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The Senate’s Intelligence Committee Criticises Pentagon As UFOs ‘Exponentially’ Increase, Whilst Making Clear That New Office Will Not Investigate ‘Man-Made’ Objects


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Of significance, as stated in the explanatory report is the ‘elimination of cap on compensatory damages for retaliatory revocation of security clearances and access determinations.’ The cap currently stands at $300,000 and the language will cover serving and former serving employees. Therefore, the risk of taking action against employees may outweigh any meaningful positives by employers.

Reacting to the Report, former Director of AATIP and current Space Force contractor, Lue Elizondo, stated:

"Our Senators, Representatives and their staff who proposed this language should be commended. This historic bill serves the best interests of the American people and should be an indicator of the level of commitment and resolve these Congress persons have.

“Let this be a warning shot to those in the Pentagon who remain defiant against the will of the American people. The time has arrived for truth and reconciliation and for those who remain obstinate, let it be known you are on notice."


Truth and reconciliation…

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The formal DoD and Intelligence Community definition of the terms used by the Office shall be updated to include space and undersea, and the scope of the Office shall be inclusive of those additional domains with focus on addressing technology surprise and ``unknown unknowns.''’

The Report goes on to state that, ‘temporary nonattributed objects, or those that are positively identified as man-made after analysis, will be passed to appropriate offices and should not be considered under the definition as unidentified aerospace-undersea phenomena.’

This is a significant revelation and in effect states that the UAP Office will not be investigating man-made craft, and will instead investigate unknown phenomena, which are not attributable to any nation or non-state actor.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/30/22 at 9:01 am to


Looks to be climate controlled on its interior…

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2022/lro-lunar-pits-comfortable

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Jul 26, 2022
NASA’s LRO Finds Lunar Pits Harbor Comfortable Temperatures


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NASA-funded scientists have discovered shaded locations within pits on the Moon that always hover around a comfortable 63 F (about 17 C) using data from NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) spacecraft and computer modeling. The pits, and caves to which they may lead, would make thermally stable sites for lunar exploration compared to areas at the Moon’s surface, which heat up to 260 F (about 127 C) during the day and cool to minus 280 F (about minus 173 C) at night. Lunar exploration is part of NASA’s goal to explore and understand the unknown in space, to inspire and benefit humanity.


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Two of the most prominent pits have visible overhangs that clearly lead to caves or voids, and there is strong evidence that another’s overhang may also lead to a large cave. “Humans evolved living in caves, and to caves we might return when we live on the Moon,” said David Paige, a co-author of the paper who leads the Diviner Lunar Radiometer Experiment aboard LRO that made the temperature measurements used in the study.

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