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Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:38 pm to Crimson K
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Did you actually read the article, or just pick a stat that you thought would be a gotcha! You see, I actually read it, so if you want to “discuss” what it says, then I’m your huckleberry.
I did. What would you like to discuss within the article (that was published by the Department of Justice)?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:39 pm to Tiger_Claw
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Slapping “Bella ciao” on a bullet doesn’t magically make him part of a disciplined left-wing movement any more than carving “Kekistan” would make him a foreign army.
This is hilariously ironic given your argument that 80-some% is right wing terrorism.
You’re arguing against the validity of the stats you just built your argument on.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:40 pm to Tiger_Claw
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And the trend is crystal clear: the vast majority of ideologically motivated violence in this country has come from the far-right.
I’d like to see what source you are referencing. My understand was always that while the majority of the very small amount of political murders in the last 50 years came from the right, the vast majority of violence/property destruction came from the left.
This might be a case of the devil being in the details,
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:41 pm to Tiger_Claw
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Slapping “Bella ciao” on a bullet doesn’t magically make him part of a disciplined left-wing movement
No, it makes him a far left lunatic radicalized by other retards just like him.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:41 pm to the808bass
You keep yelling “dishonest” but can’t point to a single thing I said that’s false. That’s not an argument, that’s you running out of ammo. If you’ve got facts, bring them. If not, calling people liars is just filler.
You’re basically a rung lower than a red-legged beaker. At least they own their terroristic ways.
You’re basically a rung lower than a red-legged beaker. At least they own their terroristic ways.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:42 pm to Tiger_Claw
You’re dishonest. He hated Kirk for his views and thought he was a fascist, it isn’t just a “meme” with no meaning
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:42 pm to Tiger_Claw
You said that the stuff on the bullets was just memetic.
How do you think the DoJ report would interpret those memetics if they were right wing?
Again, you don’t have the brain power to actually have this argument with me. You think you do. But you’re chasing your tail.
How do you think the DoJ report would interpret those memetics if they were right wing?
Again, you don’t have the brain power to actually have this argument with me. You think you do. But you’re chasing your tail.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:42 pm to Tiger_Claw
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I did. What would you like to discuss within the article
Outside of your 84% stat, I’d like you to tell me the gist as you understood it.
Also, some specific questions: did you notice the date of the article? How was right wing extremism defined? How about left wing? What years did they use for the data they presented, and how might that be relevant?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:42 pm to the808bass
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This is hilariously ironic given your argument that 80-some% is right wing terrorism.
The evidence is all around him but one by one he dismisses them. He cant even be honest with himself.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:47 pm to the808bass
Wrong again. If the engravings were QAnon codes, “1488,” or “Let’s Go Brandon,” I’d call them what they are too: indicators of influence, not iron-clad proof of membership in some official movement. That’s exactly the point, whether it’s 4chan shitposting or MAGA slogans, you don’t cherry-pick one edgy phrase and turn it into a grand theory. You look at the totality of the case.
That’s what the NIJ data does. Case after case, decade after decade. And that’s why the overwhelming trend points to the far-right as the dominant source of extremist violence in this country. The fact you keep dodging that with “you’re too dumb” playground talk just shows you don’t have a counter.
Keep on showing off that kU education though. Seems you got your money worth.
That’s what the NIJ data does. Case after case, decade after decade. And that’s why the overwhelming trend points to the far-right as the dominant source of extremist violence in this country. The fact you keep dodging that with “you’re too dumb” playground talk just shows you don’t have a counter.
Keep on showing off that kU education though. Seems you got your money worth.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:49 pm to Tiger_Claw
I’m all for letting things play out and giving people a fair shake, but it’s pretty obvious the shooter was a leftist.
It is a sobering reminder of the danger of certain rhetoric.
Charlie was not the monster that the shooter believed him to be, but the shooter believed him to be a monster that wanted to stone gays.
We’ve become so partisan that we cannot police our “sides” own rhetoric and this is the result.
It is a sobering reminder of the danger of certain rhetoric.
Charlie was not the monster that the shooter believed him to be, but the shooter believed him to be a monster that wanted to stone gays.
We’ve become so partisan that we cannot police our “sides” own rhetoric and this is the result.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:50 pm to Crimson K
The gist is straightforward: over decades of case-based data (PIRUS, BIAS, ATS), the overwhelming share of ideologically motivated violence in the U.S. has come from the far-right. That’s the through-line of the NIJ article, and it lines up with DHS, FBI, and independent think tanks.
Yes, I noticed the date, it was published Jan 2024, drawing on data projects that go back as far as the 1990s and earlier. “Right-wing” vs. “left-wing” isn’t something NIJ made up for politics; it’s coded from indictments, group membership, manifestos, and court docs in PIRUS and related datasets. And the exact date range just reinforces the point: whether you look at the ’90s, 2000s, or 2010s, the far-right dominates the stats (sorry).
So if the “84%” number bothers you, fine - but the mountain of evidence is consistent across sources and years. Pretending it all vanishes because you want to quibble about definitions is just a dodge.
Yes, I noticed the date, it was published Jan 2024, drawing on data projects that go back as far as the 1990s and earlier. “Right-wing” vs. “left-wing” isn’t something NIJ made up for politics; it’s coded from indictments, group membership, manifestos, and court docs in PIRUS and related datasets. And the exact date range just reinforces the point: whether you look at the ’90s, 2000s, or 2010s, the far-right dominates the stats (sorry).
So if the “84%” number bothers you, fine - but the mountain of evidence is consistent across sources and years. Pretending it all vanishes because you want to quibble about definitions is just a dodge.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:53 pm to Tiger_Claw
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The engravings and costumes aren’t proof of ideology, they’re proof of 4chan brainrot. It’s the same blend of meme cosplay, trolling, and shock value that runs through online boards. Slapping “Bella ciao” on a bullet doesn’t magically make him part of a disciplined left-wing movement any more than carving “Kekistan” would make him a foreign army. What it actually shows is how toxic meme culture can bleed into real violence. And that fits a long, ugly pattern: angry young men marinating in extremist online spaces, then lashing out. That’s been overwhelmingly a far-right problem in the U.S., and this case doesn’t erase that reality. Thank you for proving my point.
While I respect your linguistics, you’ve proven to lack precision of thought; instead you’ve allowed yourself to be led astray in the quest for impartiality…in short, you aren’t as intelligent as you think you are.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:54 pm to Tiger_Claw
I'd tell you that karma is going to rip your a-hole wide open. But I have a feeling that's already been done a long time ago at a second rate bathhouse.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:57 pm to Dex Morgan
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:00 pm to Dex Morgan
Thanks for proving my point. Zero facts, zero argument, just bathroom-stall graffiti. Appreciate you showing everyone exactly what you bring to the table.
Everyone on the right cheered and bragged about how Charlie loved to debate. He could do it without name calling and could actually string together a few sentences. Meanwhile, this board is nothing but attacks and cheap shots. You’re not honoring him, you’re disgracing what he claimed to stand for.
Everyone on the right cheered and bragged about how Charlie loved to debate. He could do it without name calling and could actually string together a few sentences. Meanwhile, this board is nothing but attacks and cheap shots. You’re not honoring him, you’re disgracing what he claimed to stand for.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:02 pm to Tiger_Claw
Bro, take a lap.
There’s a time and place and this ain’t it.
There’s a time and place and this ain’t it.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:03 pm to Tiger_Claw
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Wrong again. If the engravings were QAnon codes, “1488,” or “Let’s Go Brandon,” I’d call them what they are too: indicators of influence, not iron-clad proof of membership in some official movement.
You vacillate between dishonest and dumb. You don’t have to have an Antifa membership card found on you to be a left wing person. That’s not how life works.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:03 pm to Tiger_Claw
Charlie was optimistic toward opponents. I'm not. You are all absolutely vile and are irredeemable. You've spewed nothing but lies. Tyler's own family said he was a left-wing radical and turned him in. Screenshots from his discord server confirm exactly what he was.
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