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Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15287 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Bahahaha. You're such a fricking loser. Bluster my way through facts? I was literally posting factual information (sorry it doesn't fit your narrative). You should engage in some critical thinking exercises, or did they not work with you on that at UMSL?


You should learn reading comprehension?

Since when is this dude a right wing extremist?

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128760 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:17 pm to
Turns out there are demographic groups that really didn’t like Charlie Kirk. And after spending the last couple of days being happy or ambivalent that he died, Claw is pivoting to pretending the person who killed the guy he hated is not a person who agrees with him. But sometimes peoples struggle with logic.
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
7025 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:18 pm to
You’re swinging and missing here. Nobody is “lining people up and assigning ideology by statistics.” The data comes from actual cases, indictments, and law enforcement records that go back decades and across both Republican and Democrat administrations. The NIJ didn’t pull this out of thin air, it’s case-based, peer-reviewed research like the PIRUS dataset.

The consistent trend is simple: far-right extremists have committed more ideologically motivated violence in the U.S. than any other group. That’s not a Biden talking point at all, that’s DHS, FBI, and every major independent study saying the same thing.

So yeah, I did comprehend your question. You just don’t like the answer because it wrecks your narrative. I mean, the guy is obviously someone that comes from a right-leaning family, in a right-leaning state, and also fits that right-leaning profile.

Also, were you not one of the many posters here yesterday wanting to go to war with the Left over this incident? Do you really have violence and hate in your heart bass? For a fellow True Son? So many hurtful words my man -- go find some peace.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128760 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:19 pm to
How far are you from the new big elementary school in Little Rock? You know the one I’m talking about.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128760 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

So yeah, I did comprehend your question.


If you had, you might have tried to answer it. That would have made your supposed comprehension much more believable.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
66924 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:20 pm to
Hopefully more than 500 feet.
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
7025 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

If you had, you might have tried to answer it. That would have made your supposed comprehension much more believable.


I did answer it, I am just sorry your brain is unable to process it. I would love to be able to make you more intelligent bud, I can't help you there though. The methodology is straightforward: case-based datasets (PIRUS, BIAS, etc.) coded from indictments, court records, manifestos, and law enforcement sources. That’s how ideology is assigned, not by “statistics fairy dust.”

Do you not understand how data works?
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22845 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

How far are you from the new big elementary school in Little Rock? You know the one I’m talking about.



Ooh! Are we talking Sonic ITT?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128760 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:25 pm to
No. I completely understand it.

I’m asking that even if I stipulate to the arguments in that report (you can look that up), what does it mean for our boy here?

Is he 80-some% right and 20% left? Do we make a count of how many right wing terror attacks occurred this year and decide based on that what the data is leaning towards? Or does that data not mean a damn thing with regards to an individual case?
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
7025 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:29 pm to
Of course stats don’t decide an individual case, they show the trend. And the trend is crystal clear: the vast majority of ideologically motivated violence in this country has come from the far-right. That matters for threat assessment and resource allocation, whether you like it or not. Pretending otherwise is just you building strawmen to dodge the data.

Nobody’s saying a guy is “80% right-wing, 20% left.” The point is that when law enforcement and policymakers look at decades of cases, the overwhelming weight of evidence points to the far-right. That context matters when you’re assessing risk, allocating resources, and shaping prevention strategies.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128760 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Of course stats don’t decide an individual case


Perfect. We agree.

How did you interpret the writings on the bullets? Or have you not made it that far in the news cycle yet?
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68772 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:31 pm to
Some kids go wrong regardless of the best efforts of their parents…
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15287 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Some kids go wrong regardless of the best efforts of their parents…


100000%

But the kid was not a right wing extremist



Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19685 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:33 pm to
How about 100% Marxist?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128760 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:34 pm to
Close enough.

He believed in Marxist theory whether he had made it far enough into the actual literature or not to understand what he believed.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53700 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

Some kids go wrong regardless of the best efforts of their parents…


Hence we have progressives like you
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7468 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

Straight white male does it again. How does it feel to have one of your own kill Kirk


Are you seriously expecting that gas leading to work on this board? The dude calling Charlie Kirk a fascist you really believe was right wing?
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
7025 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:36 pm to
The engravings and costumes aren’t proof of ideology, they’re proof of 4chan brainrot. It’s the same blend of meme cosplay, trolling, and shock value that runs through online boards. Slapping “Bella ciao” on a bullet doesn’t magically make him part of a disciplined left-wing movement any more than carving “Kekistan” would make him a foreign army.

What it actually shows is how toxic meme culture can bleed into real violence. And that fits a long, ugly pattern: angry young men marinating in extremist online spaces, then lashing out. That’s been overwhelmingly a far-right problem in the U.S., and this case doesn’t erase that reality.

Thank you for proving my point.
This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7468 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

I think that tracks with the statistic that 84% of political motivated homicides are committed by right-wing extremists. At least that is what is claimed by the authors of this article from NIJ


Did you actually read the article, or just pick a stat that you thought would be a gotcha! You see, I actually read it, so if you want to “discuss” what it says, then I’m your huckleberry.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128760 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:37 pm to
Oh. So you’re just dishonest. Not uninformed.

Good luck trying to get the toothpaste back in the tube on this one.

You can lie to everyone else all you want. Don’t lie to yourself.
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