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re: Two Associates of Giuliani have been Arrested and are in Custody

Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65863 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:08 pm to
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Nevermind, the dim supporter has not yet been arrested.




That seems rather transparent.
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2171 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:12 pm to
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If they were trying to flee the country, that would have been included in every single headline.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-foreign-born-men-who-helped-giuliani-on-ukraine-arrested-on-campaign-finance-charges-11570714188

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Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, two Florida businessmen, are expected to appear in federal court in Virginia later on Thursday. Both men are U.S. citizens born in former Soviet republics.They were arrested while awaiting an international flight at Dulles Airport on Wednesday, according to people familiar with the matter, a day before one of them was scheduled to testify before House committees.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:14 pm to
Same guys who brought Burisma to Rudy Gs attention and helped put him in touch with Ukraine officials

Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:15 pm to
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I mean, sure. In the way that literally every donor to Trump's campaign is "loosely allied" with Trump.



So you think Barr and Berman are conspiring against Trump here?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37580 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:15 pm to
I'm reading the complaint and I'm thinking the SDNY is reaching on this complaint especially as it applies to PAC's and election law. These guys are American citizens and they happen to do business in Ukraine. They make money there and then they repatriate it and want to spend it on political activities as is their right and in large amounts.

Surprised they would arrest people for this, unless they did it to prevent potential flight.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122876 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:15 pm to
Don’t worry, Rudy can’t fire you from your government job
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65863 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:16 pm to
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wookalar1013


Y'all are really having a hard time understanding that it is not against the law for people to take an international flight. I mean, we're talking about people who clearly flew overseas regularly. Just saying they were taking an international flight isn't evidence that they were trying to evade capture.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:16 pm to
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You guys better be careful with your "deep state doin' work" angles because this could easily involve democrats and republicans


The campaign issues may be bipartisan, but if these guys really are helping connect Rudy with the right folks in Ukraine that would be the reason for the arrests and make the Dem collateral damage.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65863 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:17 pm to
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So you think Barr and Berman are conspiring against Trump here?


My mistake. I misread what you said.
Posted by thetigerman
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Member since Sep 2006
3630 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:18 pm to
WHY ARE THEY HARASSING THESE POOR MEN WHO CLEARLY JUST WANTED TO GO TO DISNEYLAND PARIS THE DAY BEFORE ONE WAS SUPPOSED TO TESTIFY TO CONGRESS????
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:19 pm to
US Attorney just now said Parnas and Fruman had one way international tickets.

I think that meets the definition of flight risk
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:23 pm to
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US Attorney just now said Parnas and Fruman had one way international tickets.



Just a coincidence. They were going to backpack across Europe. Duh.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65863 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:23 pm to
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I think that meets the definition of flight risk


Maybe it would be considered evidence of being a flight risk AFTER being arrested, but before? Were they supposed to simply understand that they were about to get arrested today?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74203 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:26 pm to
Maybe I am missing this in the indictment, but I see nowhere where this has to do with Giuliani’s activity in the Ukraine

It looks like it involves straw campaign donations for the midterms last year.

Which means the timing absolutely stinks

Why wait until the Ukraine stuff is in news to unseal these charges?
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 1:33 pm
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2171 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Y'all are really having a hard time understanding that it is not against the law for people to take an international flight




first they had their door kicked in, then they weren't a flight risk, then it's not illegal to be at the airport, then there was no proof they were taking an international flight, and now it's not illegal to take an international flight

why are you so invested in the eastern european mobsters?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65863 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Maybe I am missing this in the indictment, but I see nowhere where this has to do with Giuliani’s activity in the Ukraine

It looks like it involves straw campaign donations for the midterms last year.


You're not missing anything.
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:33 pm to
Rudy is a mob guy and works for a mob guy. Seems like this duo was trying to escape the country.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90754 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:34 pm to
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Seems like this duo was trying to escape the country.
For donations? Geezus you pay a fine for shite like that, Obama did.
Posted by LaVil
Member since Feb 2018
395 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:35 pm to
Giuliani is next. Drain the swamp of The Dotard and his lap dogs. Make America great for once.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3888 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:36 pm to
Exactly right. Wonder if Laura or Tucker will have 'pinky ring' back on the show tonight to talk about how he came to be the corporate counsel for these fine gents?!

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