re: turkey sold 1000s of children mainly survivors of the eq in 1999 to Jeffery Epstein's isla

No wonder Nancy and Chuck wont die

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This is how you create a straw man. *ETA: with a twist of argument from authority

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I'm going to assume you are a man, so let me try to inject perspective into your argument. When girls are around 10-13, they have this thing called a period. It comes roughly every 28 days, and from that point forward, a girl's entire calendar revolves around this hormonal cycle. It allows females to grow babies. It is its sole purpose.

Women are keenly in tune with our bodies, whether we like it or not. There is no escaping it, because it's who we are as humans and an enormous part of our job on earth.

Women know almost immediately that they're pregnant, which is why so many test early. Even if a woman is lucky and has zero pregnancy symptoms, she's gonna know 2 weeks later when she's late. She's likely also going to remember having sex.

My point is, don't fall for the B.S. that women "don't know" they're pregnant with a baby. I don't know who told you that, but they're a liar.

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This makes no sense.

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Sure it does.

I'm a Christian, but I haven't always been one. I used to be an atheist.

And even when I was an atheist I was anti-abortion (which is why it irritates me to no end when people claim that everyone who is anti-abortion is so for religious reasons...it's simply not true).

Snd the reason I was anti-abortion as an atheist is because the state institutionally endorsing it as a valid choice is taking a stand and making a statement that has profound philosophical consequences.

And that statement is, "The value and sanctity of human life is conditional, not inviolable, and some human lives are inherently worth less than others, and what defines a human life as being worth less is entirely the preferences and wishes of one of the human's parents."

That's a dangerous slope to start slipping down. It's essentially the same slope we'd already managed to struggle to the top of regarding slavery, now we're going to ride the same ride again.

And make no mistake, institutional endorsement is hugely influential to human psyches. It's why Jim Crow was so destructive even after slavery was abolished. The statement it made was, "The value and sanctity of human life is conditional, not inviolable, and some human lives are inherently worth less than others, and what defines a human life as being worth less is the appearance of the human, and if you look a certain way you are subhuman. You are too dirty and contaminating for full humans to eat with, shower with, use the same bathroom with or sleep in the same hotel room as, and you are too dumb to vote."

It's one thing for a private citizen to hold those views, but when they are institutionalized and endorsed (and therefore validated) by the authority of the state, the psychological impact is many times greater.

So does the fact that we institutionally endorse abortion affect people psychologically in the direction of not valuing human life as much? I don't see how there's any way that could not be the case. And I thought the same when I was an atheist.

I believe it was one of Stephen King's characters in the Stand who said, "Life is already cheap. Abortion just makes it cheaper."

Indeed.

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We are not discussing normal sin in this conversation. We're discussing organized, ritualistic occult/Satanic actions. There is a term for this developed in the studies: Satanic Ritualistic Abuse (SRA)

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I would call Planned Parenthood pretty well organized.

I do understand what you're saying, and I'm not trying to prove a "gotcha" here. I also think this Epstein "file drop" is a colossal mess that has confused the issue with some wild assertions. I'm also old enough to acknowledge there are humans on this earth that commit vile atrocities towards other humans. The abortion debate is a hill I will die on, and one of the most frustrating parts is how people want to normalize it. Again, it's organized evil hiding in plain sight.

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It's one thing for a private citizen to hold those views, but when they are institutionalized and endorsed (and therefore validated) by the authority of the state, the psychological impact is many times greater.

So does the fact that we institutionally endorse abortion affect people psychologically in the direction of not valuing human life as much? I don't see how there's any way that could not be the case. And I thought the same when I was an atheist.

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This can all be 100% true and still fall WAY short of what she claimed.

I grew up during that time. I didn't listen to metal but I knew a few friends and acquaintances who had their Ozzy, Dio and Maiden cassettes destroyed by their moms. Good for laughs.

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I grew up during that time. I didn't listen to metal but I knew a few friends and acquaintances who had their Ozzy, Dio and Maiden cassettes destroyed by their moms. Good for laughs.

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I almost posted one of those instead. Occult Demon Cassette has a ton of great stuff.

Lots of the metal bands they reference are old normies now like Ozzy and Metallica. So hilarious to watch these in retrospect.

You'd think it would be a lesson.

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This can all be 100% true and still fall WAY short of what she claimed.

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The way I read it she was claiming that legal abortion causes people to devalue human life.

Did I miss something?

I once knew of someone that worked for david rockefeller and said he wanted abortion made legal up to 5 years of age.

Your argument is disingenuous. You are citing a study done by one of the most most liberal, left-wing colleges on planet earth, not to mention the fact that the psychology/psychiatry fields are absolutely dominated by liberal, left-wing doctors and so called “experts”. Take note of how many child psychologists are being/will be exposed as child rapists and worse in the Epstein files. Much like law, almost the entire psychology profession has been taken over by scumbags with no moral code.

Mark my words, in the next few years, you will see the psychology and psychiatry fields weaponized by the Democrats/socialists. People have no idea of the enormous amount of power that doctors in these professions wield. This is likely to occur after the Dems get their majority back, solely due to stealing the elections. It will happen exactly like it did in the media and legal fields, as their operatives are already in place.