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re: turkey sold 1000s of children mainly survivors of the eq in 1999 to Jeffery Epstein's isla
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:05 am to HouseMom
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:05 am to HouseMom
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Your assertion is that the "Satanic Panic" was mostly fabricated (for who knows what reason)
Those reasons: facts, evidence, logic, etc.
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I'm only saying that we have over a million known "human sacrifices" of babies each year
To you. Not to them. They don't see it this way, which is why taking the leap from their mindset to permitting the killing of actual babies makes no sense.
You're projecting your POV to them, and extrapolating your POV (not their POV) into terribleness which isn't possible with their POV (generally, as there are always outlier sickos)
That's why it doesn't make sense.
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If a mother can do this to her own child,
They don't see it as their own child and treat actual children very differently. This is the fatal flaw of your argument, summarized.
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:06 am to omegaman66
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So instead of being outraged over this
The point is teaching people not to get outraged over lies and bullshite.
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you want to complain that YOU don't agree with the numbers with no knowledge to back up your claim.
There is no knowledge/facts to back up the claim of OP, brother.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:12 am to imjustafatkid
The video was bad, but the fetuses were from normal abortions and not part of some ritualistic/occult Satanic cult.
There is an entire Wiki article on it
Basically a shady lab was using fetuses (likely illegally) from abortion clinics and, as you would expect from a shady lab, it had financial issues. It stored the fetuses properly but couldn't afford to dispose of them properly. The doctor leased a 20-foot flatbed and that check even bounced. So then it was repossessed and the fetuses were found.
So if you see an edited clip without context, it can dishonestly project a much different story. The real story is much more boring and mundane.
There is an entire Wiki article on it
Basically a shady lab was using fetuses (likely illegally) from abortion clinics and, as you would expect from a shady lab, it had financial issues. It stored the fetuses properly but couldn't afford to dispose of them properly. The doctor leased a 20-foot flatbed and that check even bounced. So then it was repossessed and the fetuses were found.
So if you see an edited clip without context, it can dishonestly project a much different story. The real story is much more boring and mundane.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:15 am to Warboo
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Show the facts. Not opinions but facts. Show the data. Who are the obvious liars? Who are the proven liars? Inquiring minds want to know
Are we gonna relive the backmasking days?
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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The point is teaching people not to get outraged over lies and bullshite.
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There is no knowledge/facts to back up the claim of OP, brother.
So you think that because you are not aware of the facts that it is false. You being ignorant of something seems to be conscious choice of yours. It is a trend that you keep repeating.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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The video was bad, but the fetuses were from normal abortions and not part of some ritualistic/occult Satanic cult.
You're proving my earlier point. Our society has been brainwashed out of critical thinking.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:22 am to Ailsa
Is there verifiable proof of this other than the picture of a guy eating KFC with some random persons accusation posting a picture of some words from some document?
I need to know what level of outrage I should have and directed at whom.
I need to know what level of outrage I should have and directed at whom.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:22 am to omegaman66
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So you think that because you are not aware of the facts that it is false.
What facts? Show me the credible evidence about Epstein getting thousands of children from Turkey. It's not in OP.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:25 am to Tantal
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I have no doubt that they're evil and screw kids, but torturing them to extract adrenochrome is pointless.
Wait, you can’t project your own rational thought into this. Maybe “the point” is that the ritual itself is as important as the adrenochrome.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:25 am to Ailsa
There were not 1,000's of children on Epstein's Island nor were there 1,000's of children run through the island. Think how ridiculous and sensational this claim is 
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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What facts? Show me the credible evidence about Epstein getting thousands of children from Turkey. It's not in OP.
I didn't say it was in the OP.
You still insist that the 2020 election was not stolen despite the facts all over the place. Which means you are a liar. You spew you garbage all over this website. There is no point in trying to show you the way, because you aren't interested in the truth. You are interested in influencing people to believe what you know to be untrue.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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Those reasons: facts, evidence, logic, etc.
I meant who knows why it was fabricated, not that you didn't know. The 80's were replete with this. We even had a house in our neighborhood we were scared to ride our bikes by because Devil worshippers lived there.
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They don't see it this way, which is why taking the leap from their mindset to permitting the killing of actual babies makes no sense.
Since I'm one of the few people on this board who has actually given birth, I can assure you, with complete confidence, that most of these women are completely and totally aware that they are killing their own babies. They just don't care.
And "they" do see it as a sacrifice. The number one reason is that a baby would interfere in their career.
From Stevie Nicks:
“Now what the hell am I going to do?” Nicks said to Rolling Stone about her thought process at the time of her aborted pregnancy. “I cannot have a child. I am not the kind of woman who would hand my baby over to a nanny, not in a million years.
“So we would be dragging a baby around the world on tour, and I wouldn’t do that to my baby. I wouldn’t say I just need nine months. I would say I need a couple of years, and that would break up the band period.”
Nicks, 76, said she doesn’t “really care” if people become upset with her over having decided to get an abortion. “My life was my life, and my plan was my plan and had been since I was in the fourth grade,” Nicks said to Rolling Stone, adding that Fleetwood Mac would have been “done” if she had decided otherwise.
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They don't see it as their own child and treat actual children very differently. This is the fatal flaw of your argument, summarized.
See above. I can assure you, "they" know exactly what they're doing. All of the dehumanizing language used by pro-choice advocates is to justify and soften how bad it really is.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:34 am to HouseMom
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You're proving my earlier point.
No, I'm not. Normal abortions are not part of a ritualistic/occult/Satanic cult.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:35 am to Ailsa
Thousands?
The whole island was only 70 acres. Who cooked for 'em all?
The whole island was only 70 acres. Who cooked for 'em all?
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:36 am to omegaman66
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I didn't say it was in the OP.
I never said you were limited to the OP
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You still insist that the 2020 election was not stolen despite the facts all over the place. Which means you are a liar. You spew you garbage all over this website. There is no point in trying to show you the way, because you aren't interested in the truth. You are interested in influencing people to believe what you know to be untrue.
Your diversion attempt is noted. I won't bite.
Is that a white flag or are you going to produce the credible evidence Epstein trafficked thousands of children from Turkey?
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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The Satanic Panic circle is complete
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SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:37 am to HouseMom
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Since I'm one of the few people on this board who has actually given birth, I can assure you, with complete confidence, that most of these women are completely and totally aware that they are killing their own babies. They just don't care.
This is how you create a straw man.
*ETA: with a twist of argument from authority
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 8:37 am
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Normal abortions are not part of a ritualistic/occult/Satanic cult.
Here you go again using "normal" to describe the killing of an unborn baby. I think the question lies in what you consider "Satanic" or not. It may not be an official cult registered with the Better Business Bureau, but the culture of abortion is the antithesis of Godly.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:39 am to wackatimesthree
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Thousands?
The whole island was only 70 acres. Who cooked for 'em all?
This is actually a very common issue with Satanic Panic storytelling, especially later in the period when they had to keep ramping up the fantastical.
The scale presented major logistical issues and unraveled many stories.
The McMartin Preschool saga had this, along with other impossibilities (tunnels that did not exist, similar to Pizzagate)
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:44 am to HouseMom
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Here you go again using "normal" to describe the killing of an unborn baby.
It was to distinguish from the outlier incidents of women with major psychological issues engaging in self harm that killed fetuses, preemptively.
I know how people respond with gotchas in these discussions, so I cut them off when I can.
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I think the question lies in what you consider "Satanic" or not. It may not be an official cult registered with the Better Business Bureau, but the culture of abortion is the antithesis of Godly.
And this is also a common meme, which was already preemptively dismissed. I already accounted for people trying to turn any bad/evil act into a form of Satanism due only to this basis in sin/separation from God.
We are not discussing normal sin in this conversation. We're discussing organized, ritualistic occult/Satanic actions. There is a term for this developed in the studies: Satanic Ritualistic Abuse (SRA)
SRA does not mean normal abortions, murders, etc. Just because you can try to expand the concept of those into "Satan" based only in their pathology does not make them SRA.
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