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re: Tucker vs Huckabee debate has posted

Posted on 2/21/26 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 6:02 pm to
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I think young Christians see the fruit of dispensationalism, they see that its rotten, and they are tired of older Christians gaslighting them into believing its good fruit. Young white Christians are told that it’s the Christians of modernity(and all the degeneracy that came with it) that got it right. The Christians of yesteryear(that built the most beautiful cities, art, infrastructure...western civilization) got it wrong for segregating Jews and/or kicking them out of their country. You see we are the good Christians, the 1900 years before us...they were bad
One could not distinguish between this shite and the plight of some retarded trans person.

I cannot believe either are taken seriously in 2026.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23114 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 6:06 pm to
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Jews didn't murder Jesus

Wait, what?

Should modern Jews be held accountable for the death of Jesus? Of course not.

Did the Jewish Pharisees demand the Romans kill Jesus? Absolutely.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17755 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 6:40 pm to
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Oh, I see. You’re in a mental hospital.


No I’m just not a loser that believes that giving to a country that has stolen our nuclear secrets, has helped the Soviet Union, has attacked our navy, refused to help while we were in the Middle East, and takes billions and billions of our tax dollars without any benefit is a good idea.

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Laughing hysterically at things that are a figment of your imagination.


What’s a figment of my imagination? Do tell.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23114 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:01 pm to
So apparently it gets better for Huckabee.

I missed it originally because I was running errands and didn’t catch the full exchange.

When Huckabee was pressed as to why Israel had exclusive claim to the contested areas relative to Christians or Muslims who can trace their history there for 2000 years he responded by saying they’re entitled to all the lands promised to Abraham.

Tucker pointed out that Abraham was promised all the land between the Nile and the Euphrates (ie parts of Jordan, Iraq, etc).

Huckabee then responded by saying all the land promised to Abraham.

In other words the US ambassador to Israel just publicly stated that Israel is entitled to massive tracts of land currently belonging to 3+ nations.

Even Bibi doesn’t claim what Huckabee thinks belongs to Israel. He should be fired tomorrow.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76348 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:03 pm to
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That's not a debate.


And who's fault is that?
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5171 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:04 pm to
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Wait, what?



Jesus wasn't murdered. The "Jews killed Jesus" line is always meant to make non-Christian "Christians" angry. It implies that Jesus is dead and didn't willingly give his life and rise from the dead 3 days later.

God used Pilate to fulfill His will. No one can subvert God's will... no one could "murder" Jesus.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36558 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:13 pm to
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No I’m just not a loser that believes that giving to a country that has stolen our nuclear secrets, has helped the Soviet Union, has attacked our navy, refused to help while we were in the Middle East, and takes billions and billions of our tax dollars without any benefit is a good idea.

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What’s a figment of my imagination? Do tell.

Everything you said above. Reason being, as is so commonly seen, all you’ve done is copy catted what everyone else said, almost verbatim, and just the same as them you adopt canned talking points but can’t expound on them if your life depended on it. Then have the nerve to act high and mighty to one of the very few people who actually has the ability to identify and call out the deformity of the whole clown show.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43544 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:59 pm to
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Does Israel have a "right to exist"? Surely no more and no less than any other nation.

Do you believe that Israel, completely surrounded by nation states who have, for almost 80 years, sworn themselves to the complete eradication of all Jews, from the river to the sea ... do you believe that makes Israel's survival and existence just a wee bit different sort of existence than any other country or nation state on the planet?
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it kind of smacks of Black Lives Matter... you're either on board with the whole BLM agenda or you admit black lives don't matter, no middle ground.

Do you believe black people are completely surrounded by people that will kill them?
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Does Israel have an inherent right to other countries' support (policy and treasure) in order to exist? That's a whole different question.

Do blacks have an inherent right to welfare and reparations because they are black? Because some seem to believe that they do. And they've robbed far far more from our national treasury, some say upwards of forty trillion dollars since 1964 ... far more than we've ever given Israel.

Also, what does Israel give us in return?

Middle east intelligence?

A trusted alliance in the middle east?

A spiritual, Old Testament, connection between the two countries?

Unfettered access to the Holy Land?

Business dealings throughout the world in banking, construction, shipping & transportation, media, technology, medicine?
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50443 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:05 pm to
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But I do think it’s worth noting that at least some of the aid does immediately make its way back to our country, more relevantly into our economy.






that is flat on demand side economics, and you present it as a best case scenario

Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43544 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:06 pm to
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That's not a debate.

That's Tucker making accusations and Mike trying to defend himself......poorly.

100% transparency, Mike is a personal friend.

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Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23114 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:12 pm to
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Jesus wasn't murdered

Then you don’t believe in Christian doctrine.

Matthew 27:35 (NIV): “When they had crucified him, they divided up his clothes by casting lots

Philippians 2:8 (NIV): “And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death—even death on a cross!”

1 Peter 2:24 (NIV): ““He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.””

John 19:30 (NIV): “When he had received the drink, Jesus said, ‘It is finished.’ With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.”

Jesus Christ was born to Mary, suffered, died and was buried, on the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures.

In order to be resurrected, one must first be dead.

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God used Pilate to fulfill His will.

God didn’t make Pilate kill Jesus, the Jewish Pharisees did.

It’s not subjective.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 8:15 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36558 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:15 pm to
When you bunch of loony tunes are believing that America sends aid to Israel for use as “walking around money,” basically birthday present money, lol yeah it’s not unreasonable to make mention of something like that.

But what would you know about not being unreasonable? Not a GOT damn thing, crazy road lizard.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50443 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:23 pm to
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When you bunch of loony tunes are believing that America sends aid to Israel for use as “walking around money,” basically birthday present money, lol yeah it’s not unreasonable to make mention of something like that.

But what would you know about not being unreasonable? Not a GOT damn thing, crazy road lizard.




you're truly a nutjob
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5171 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:25 pm to
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Then you don’t believe in Christian doctrine.



This is funny, I'm saying Jesus sacrificed himself and you're objecting to that because you think I'm trying to deflect blame from Jews or something.

Jesus came to this world as a living sacrifice. If you don't believe that then it's you who don't believe in Christian doctrine.

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In order to be resurrected, one must first be dead.



That's a fact. But to be dead one doesn't have to murdered. Jesus chose to die... no one killed him.

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God didn’t make Pilate kill Jesus, the Jewish Pharisees did.



No one killed Jesus and God absolutely used Pilate.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21397 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:26 pm to
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do you believe that makes Israel's survival and existence just a wee bit different sort of existence than any other country or nation state on the planet?


It makes it more difficult. That doesn’t confer higher or lower "right" than any other nation.

I feel like we're getting twisted by jumping from "Israel has a right to exist" to "Israel has a right to other nations' policies and treasures. I agree with the former, agree much less with the latter.

Maybe I have some bias... but here's why: (I asked google for the count of antisemitism bills filed in the us since 2023)

While dozens of, and potentially hundreds of, resolutions and bills have been introduced at the federal, state, and local levels, the most prominent federal legislative focus has been on the Antisemitism Awareness Act.

The Antisemitism Awareness Act is awful.

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Do you believe black people are completely surrounded by people that will kill them?


Do I have to answer that?



Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36558 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:27 pm to
Hey, you better be nice to me. I’m one of the very few people who pay you any attention. I’m trying to be charitable.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25663 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:29 pm to
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I thought Huckabee did fine


You’re insane. He pretended to be uninformed and retarded and not understand basic logical questions that would highlight his unfounded beliefs.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50443 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:29 pm to
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davyjones




So as your potential friend, let me give you some advice


Salvation is free, and as well, it's not to be made a mockery of

Read Galatians, then keep reading

Take your Scofield "Bible" out to the fire pit and use it for kindling

Get down on your knees and ask God's forgiveness for celebrating Palestinian women and children and elderly being genocided by your pathetic heroes who mostly don't even believe in God.





Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5171 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:30 pm to
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genocided


Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50443 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:32 pm to
correct sir
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