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re: Tucker says Jan 6 committee wants to abolish Electoral College and change voting laws.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 8:12 pm to David_DJS
Posted on 6/7/22 at 8:12 pm to David_DJS
The city isn’t conservatives but sunburns around them they get counted in mwtro area totals.
Trumo got over 3 million votes in NY and it wasn’t farmers. It was 100s of thousands in and around the NYC. Yeah they voted Dems, but it wasn’t 20 million votes in the NYC metro area So that they could just get together with LA and control the world.
Republicans have won popular elections before.
Look at new Orleans. Orleans parish is super liberal, but Jefferson, Tangipahoa St Tammy are all conservative as hell
Maybe just get the other 3rd of registered voters to actually show up.
Trumo got over 3 million votes in NY and it wasn’t farmers. It was 100s of thousands in and around the NYC. Yeah they voted Dems, but it wasn’t 20 million votes in the NYC metro area So that they could just get together with LA and control the world.
Republicans have won popular elections before.
Look at new Orleans. Orleans parish is super liberal, but Jefferson, Tangipahoa St Tammy are all conservative as hell
Maybe just get the other 3rd of registered voters to actually show up.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:00 pm
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 8:44 pm to L1C4
The union would never have existed if the larger states controlled the government. The union will cease to exist when liberals try to remove the electoral college. Simple as that.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 8:45 pm to TigerMyth36
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The union would never have existed if the larger states controlled the government.
It wouldn’t have existed if the north insisted on ending slavery
Posted on 6/7/22 at 9:43 pm to SammyTiger
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The city isn’t conservatives but sunburns around them they get counted in mwtro area totals.
Trumo got over 3 million votes in NY and it wasn’t farmers. It was 100s of thousands in and around the NYC. Yeah they voted Dems, but it wasn’t 20 million votes in the NYC metro area So that they could just get together with LA and control the world.
Republicans have won popular elections before.
Look at new Orleans. Orleans parish is super liberal, but Jefferson, Tangipahoa St Tammy are all conservative as hell
Don't argue that extremely liberal metro areas aren't extremely liberal because they don't vote 100% for liberals.
There isn't a major city in America that isn't reliably and overwhelmingly liberal.
I'm not sure what you're suggesting by mentioning that Republicans having won the popular vote.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 9:43 pm to SammyTiger
quote:You've carefully avoided the numbers in my previous post.
NYC metro has 20 million people. 6 NYCs would only be 120 million which isn’t a majority, and there aren’t 6 NYCs.
quote:That would be 22% of the states. Biden, for example, only won 16% of the counties, with a record setting popular vote. As noted, the fixed proportion of the EC is too low.
Just like under the current system you can win 11 states by 1 vote and lose 100% of every other state And become president.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 9:44 pm to Froman
You do not belong in this country. Move to China where you belong.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 9:47 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Because pure democracies suck. And they aren't just states. Those states have people in them. That share almost nothing in common with those in urban areas.
Tell me why I should Care about equity between states more than equity between citizens?
Is this really so difficult for you? Or do you want to stick with your own ignorance as a substitute for a merit-based argument?
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 9:48 pm to Taxing Authority
Leftisits: We care about empowering minorities!
Also leftists: Unless they live in small states.
Also leftists: Unless they live in small states.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 9:52 pm to David_DJS
My arguement is that New York doesn’t put out 20 millions blue votes so that they will just dominate the entire country.
And that’s because despite having 20 million people they don’t all vote and they don’t all vote Dem even if it’s a lot of them doing it.
Biden got 5 million votes from the whole state. That’s not something that can’t be overcome by middle America. Especially when trump got 3 million
And that’s because despite having 20 million people they don’t all vote and they don’t all vote Dem even if it’s a lot of them doing it.
Biden got 5 million votes from the whole state. That’s not something that can’t be overcome by middle America. Especially when trump got 3 million
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:01 pm to SammyTiger
quote:I'm not sure why you'd presume voter/populatoin rates and/or turnount in 'middle America would higher than NY?
Biden got 5 million votes from the whole state. That’s not something that can’t be overcome by middle America.
Montana only has ~692k registered voters. That only 13% of the NY voters that voted for Biden (presuming 100% of them voted them showed up and the same way).
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:04 pm to Taxing Authority
So you don’t even want middle America (which is more than just the absolute lowest population states BTW) to have to show up to vote.
Just say people don’t vote for your candidates and you like the EC because they don’t have to.
He’ll even Texas is fricked by the EC and they’re a red state.
Just say people don’t vote for your candidates and you like the EC because they don’t have to.
He’ll even Texas is fricked by the EC and they’re a red state.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:11 pm to Taxing Authority
It’s pretty simple, our constitution is our country and people like that want to get rid of it which means they want to get rid of the United States. It isn’t any more complicated than that.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:13 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Da fuq? How'd you get that from my post. I demonstrated mathematically if EVERY VOTER IN THE STATE showed up and voted the same way it would only amount to 13% of NY's actual vote.
So you don’t even want middle America (which is more than just the absolute lowest population states BTW) to have to show up to vote.
Just think if NY turned out... quote:Why would I lie?
Just say people don’t vote for your candidates and you like the EC because they don’t have to.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:17 pm to Taxing Authority
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Da fuq? How'd you get that from my post. I demonstrated mathematically if EVERY VOTER IN THE STATE showed up and voted the same way it would only amount to 13% of NY's actual vote. Just think if NY turned out...
Ok and? Yeah the state doesn’t have people. That’s why it shouldn’t matter as much.
I never Said Wyoming could outvote NYC. I am Saying the whole “6 cities could rule the country” is a bullshite narrative
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Why would I lie?
Denial it is.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:19 pm to SammyTiger
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Ok and? Yeah the state doesn’t have people. That’s why it shouldn’t matter as much.
There it is! quote:Why don't you just admit your a bigoted urbanite wanting an authortarian government that dictates to others what to do for their own selfish benefit? See how that works?
Denial it is.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:22 pm to Taxing Authority
What’s do you mean there it is? I e Said that tons of times. It’s literally my whole point.
Wyoming shouldn’t get extra representatives because it barely has people there.
The people there matter as much as people anywhere else. Not more because there are less of them.
Wyoming shouldn’t get extra representatives because it barely has people there.
The people there matter as much as people anywhere else. Not more because there are less of them.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:27 pm to SammyTiger
quote:I know. The self-own is the best own.
What’s do you mean there it is? I e Said that tons of times. It’s literally my whole point.
quote:Unless they try to vote. Guess what... the people of NY get a fixed apportionment too.
The people there matter as much as people anywhere else.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:29 pm to SammyTiger
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And that’s because despite having 20 million people they don’t all vote and they don’t all vote Dem even if it’s a lot of them doing it.
And not all voters in the Dakotas vote Republican. I don't understand your argument. Are you seriously suggesting that if we shitcanned the EC, this would have no impact on how the US is governed because, hey, some voters in urban areas are conservative?
190 million Americans live in urban areas with a population greater than 1 million. When you look at the list of these metro areas (there's 56 of them, I think), 90% of the cities are decidedly liberal. There are a handful (like 5 or 6) that are purple - Maricopa County (Phoenix-metro) area being a good example, which voted Biden. There are maybe 2 or 3 that are decidedly Republican leaning.
Something like 83% of Americans live in urban areas (however the census bureau defines an urban area). Without the EC, rural states would be run over by an urban mob. That's already the case to a degree.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:41 pm to Taxing Authority
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I know. The self-own is the best own.
Yeah man, votes should be equal. What a self own.
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Unless they try to vote.
Yeah they currently matter more than other voters.
It’s a bad system. People are just arguing that empty states are more Important than citizens.
If you don’t live in Wyoming you’re arguing that their vote get more representation than yours. You like that? I bet You do, bitch.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 11:11 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Nah. The populated states get the even apportion as well.
Yeah they currently matter more than other voters. ... If you don’t live in Wyoming you’re arguing that their vote get more representation than yours
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You like that? I bet You do, bitch.
I thought that was clear? This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 11:13 pm
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