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re: Tucker Carlson: why I’m interviewing Putin
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The American news consumer or anybody in the reach of somebody platforming Putin.
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its not. hes simply a journalist, not an ambassador.
Although the Tucker folks seem to disclaim that sometimes, which I think makes it a little harder for Tucker. We'll see.
If you believe Putin is an extreme authoritarian with few moral limitations, then I think there is a valid debate about whether there is any value in this interview. I'd probably still come down on the side of "sure, do it" just for the purpose of having a historic figure talk to an American journalist at a time when there is a very hive mind approach to Putin in America. But I think the argument that nothing can be gained by letting a bad, dishonest person speak directly to Americans is a defensible position.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:33 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I'd agree it likely would be.
I'm not the one here pretending to have perfect foresight of how this will all go down, though.
We can make a guess by virtue of how much of Putin's image is curated. I'm skeptical that Putin would ever agree to a hard-hitting interview or even one which strays from his version of events. I'm not expecting anything from Putin that I wouldn't expect from any politician. The interview by Azerbaijani President Aliyev with the BBC is a rare example of what can happen with a more oppositional style. LINK
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:34 pm to TigerDoc
Or he can just ask him to answer to Western narratives around his actions, motivations, etc. in a respectful way.
I know its been a while since American journalists engaged in actual journalism, so your memory might be foggy, but going in with an agenda and acting like Leslie Stahl with the guy isn't going to produce anything of value.
I know its been a while since American journalists engaged in actual journalism, so your memory might be foggy, but going in with an agenda and acting like Leslie Stahl with the guy isn't going to produce anything of value.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:35 pm to GumboPot
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n the video Tucker said he has tried many times to interview Zelensky. I'm sure he will try again.
I don't doubt it, but giving someone the platform to respond is probably a good idea. Tucker could do it separately, his own version of a fact check, but he's shown himself very antagonistic to the Ukrainian cause (or America's role therein) so I don't think it's the best option.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:35 pm to Pettifogger
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But I think the argument that nothing can be gained by letting a bad, dishonest person speak directly to Americans is a defensible position.
I dont think it has to be defensible. Evidently people have already made up their mind on whether is right or wrong.
If its a two hour long infomercial, yeah..he wasted his time. But Just interviewing? Hes fine.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:36 pm to GumboPot
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Provide an example of a confrontational question so I can calibrate my expatiations prior to the interview being released.
Putin is going to cite bogus referenda, will omit international obligations, deny atrocities. To be responsible would be to correct these.
Putin would never put up with this. He doesn't give tough interviews and wouldn't agree to this interview if he thought it would be tough.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Honestly, Tucker saying "part of this is personal, I want to talk to historic leaders, good ones and bad ones, during historic events/conflicts" would be a pretty reasonable reason for me.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:38 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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Ray Ray Rodman
Is this a literal AI bot?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:38 pm to crazy4lsu
I dont think he's worried about Western narratives or overly feisty interviewers. I think he likes it, actually.
He's sat for interviews an many occasions. NBC News did one with him in the summer of 2021.
He's sat for interviews an many occasions. NBC News did one with him in the summer of 2021.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:38 pm to TigerDoc
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Putin is going to cite bogus referenda, will omit international obligations, deny atrocities. To be responsible would be to correct these.
Putin would never put up with this. He doesn't give tough interviews and wouldn't agree to this interview if he thought it would be tough.
The rebuttal thread to Tucker's interview on this board should be interesting.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:39 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Or he can just ask him to answer to Western narratives around his actions, motivations, etc. in a respectful way.
None of that is news. That propaganda comes out of Russia state media and his mouth everyday. Saying you want to watch that is saying you want to watch Russian propaganda.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:41 pm to TigerDoc
When is the interview coming out, do we know?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:41 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I dont think he's worried about Western narratives or overly feisty interviewers. I think he likes it, actually.
He's sat for interviews an many occasions. NBC News did one with him in the summer of 2021.
You might be right about this, but this isn't why you invite Tucker to the Kremlin to do the interview. Tucker is regularly featured in Russian media because his message dovetails with theirs.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:42 pm to TigerDoc
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None of that is news. That propaganda comes out of Russia state media and his mouth everyday. Saying you want to watch that is saying you want to watch Russian propaganda.
Ignorance. Are you naïve enough to think that some c*ntish, Cathey Newman style interview is going to submit this guy? He's going to say what he's going to say. The more he talks the better. Acting like a crusader prick is only going to end the interview sooner. He doesnt have to be nice, he just needs to keep things respectful.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:44 pm to Pettifogger
Its already on the meme thread
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:45 pm to GumboPot
Anything short of Tucker calling Putin a war criminal will be criticized as lobbing softballs and allowing Putin to spew propaganda.
Catturd has weighed in.
Catturd has weighed in.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:45 pm to Pettifogger
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I think there is a difference in "We know your position and narrative about Nato expansion. A lot of people in the United States and the United States government disagree with those claims and say...so what is your response to those people"
Well I would prefer it that Tucker be more specific about representing the US's viewpoint at the time and now, because that viewpoint is oddly the one that is least represented in the wider media. We already know Putin's response to this line of questioning.
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I'm ok with either TBH, I just don't think the latter is necessary for Tucker to fulfill his objective if that objective is to bring answers directly from Putin to regular Americans. While it's a murky line, making the decision not to be overly confrontational in order to get as much direct content as you can is justifiable IMO.
Putin has been using the same canned responses about his grievances with the US since at least 2007. By this point, some of those viewpoints might as well be regarded as mainstream. There's been remarkably little pushback to those views by 'anti-war' people, even so much as to ask, 'are Putin's claims true?' because they just default to 'US is bad' about everything.
My view is that in geopolitics, no one is really acting stupidly or irrationally. The consequences of such actions are too great. Thus there has to be some reason why the US, under Bush II, decided to withdraw from the ABT in 2002? The reference as to why the US might want to reassess its ballistic capabilities is answered for us by the timeline, as there were significant events in 2001 that changed US strategy in very identifiable ways.
It's frustrating because in the discussion of 'Putin bad,' one side is so distrustful of their own government, in a completely justifiable sense, that they ignore the ability of other bodies worldwide to act duplicitously. It's this weird retreat to toddler logic that can't be good for anyone long-term.
I blame superhero movies.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:45 pm to Vacherie Saint
I don't think an interview is worth doing because he won't be truthful and a tough interview would just be acrimonious and will likely improve Putin's standing with people who don't like the media. It's just dumb to do it.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:47 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Acting like a crusader prick is only going to end the interview sooner. He doesnt have to be nice, he just needs to keep things respectful.
You’re obviously a MAGA extremist.
The sheer gall in suggesting that a reporter be respectful and to some extent deferential when interviewing the head of state of a nuclear power in his own house. Gosh you’re so dumb. Don’t you know that Tucker should get up there and lecture Putin on American democracy?
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