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re: Tucker Carlson: "The Israel lobby takes out Thomas Massie and kills MAGA"
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:30 am to PorkSammich
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:30 am to PorkSammich
quote:That's the other part of this the Trump bros can't really argue out of.
Israel largely funded Trump.
Now they are funding his chosen candidates.
Jared Kushner doing work.
Israel is in control, they control Trump more than any previous President.
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:36 am to shel311
quote:The whole cost Massie + Gallrein? PACs included?
Translation - if you spend $32million
Gallrein outspent Massie about 3 to 2 in KY-4
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:38 am to cajunangelle
Massie raised more money than Gallrein
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:42 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
I'm just going by campaign records i.e., ~$6M for Massie, ~$9M for Gallrein
This is correct. The $15m attributed to Massie alone is incorrect.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:43 am to Rza32
quote:
Massie raised more money than Gallrein
No he didn’t. How much did you donate to Gallrein and which of his policy proposals is your favorite?
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:48 am to lurking
quote:Massie’s campaign outspent Gallrein’s, $5.8 million to $2.6 million, according to FEC data. But super PACs heavily favored the GOP challenger, spending more than $16.4 million to boost Gallrein compared to roughly $10.1 million backing the incumbent. LINK
This is correct. The $15m attributed to Massie alone is incorrect.
So this is an all inclusive tally. It's a little different than my previous understanding, and much closer in differential. ~ $16M vs $19M
Massie $5.8M + $10.1M (PAC) = $15.9M total
Gallrein $2.6M + $16.4M (PAC) = $19M total
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:52 am to lurking
quote:Apparently he did.
No he didn’t.
I'd read somewhere Gallrein outraised Massie 3 to 2 but now that the numbers are actually in, it looks like that reference may have been to PAC money.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:10 pm to Centinel
quote:
What else are you implying here
Exactly what I said, and I never claimed that money wins political races. I specifically used the word “influence”; would you like to argue that money doesn’t influence political races?
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:17 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Money was absolutely dumped into the race.
Yes, it was.
You still never said why turnout matters. What difference does it make if turnout was 25% or 50%?
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:37 pm to cajunangelle
quote:
Possibly you missed this thread... LINK
That was a dumb thread.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:09 pm to cajunangelle
Meh, the path to beating an incumbent is to get Tucker to endorse the incumbent.
"AIPAC" and Trump tried to beat Massie in 2020 and lost bigtime. Massie focused on Israel and Epstein instead of his district's issues starting in December and hot his arse handed to him this tim.
"AIPAC" and Trump tried to beat Massie in 2020 and lost bigtime. Massie focused on Israel and Epstein instead of his district's issues starting in December and hot his arse handed to him this tim.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:11 pm to cajunangelle
Well he’s spot on
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:26 pm to cadillacattack
quote:not protecting pedophiles is not being a team player? huh?
It is simple. Massie demonstrated to the voters that he is incapable of being a team player.
The voters responded with turnout. Translation = enough is enough
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:26 pm to cajunangelle
LINK
Why are some of you okay with this? This is corruption in our faces and it's on both "sides". Adelson is just one of many at all levels.
There is fraud at every level in our elections.
Why are some of you okay with this? This is corruption in our faces and it's on both "sides". Adelson is just one of many at all levels.
There is fraud at every level in our elections.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:06 pm to shel311
quote:
Israel is in control, they control Trump more than any previous President
Hold on I thought Putin controlled Trump?
Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:20 pm to Gifman
quote:
Hold on I thought Putin controlled Trump?
Apparently that's only on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Tuesday, and Thursday it's Israel, I guess.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:49 pm to Bourbon Bebe
quote:
Why are some of you okay with this?
This is a rhetorical question, right?
Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:59 pm to Flats
quote:Simple.
You still never said why turnout matters. What difference does it make if turnout was 25% or 50%?
There was a > 75% no show rate.
Presumably there were enough Massie votes in the group he couldn't even get to show up to flip the race into a landslide.
E.g., 600K registered KY-4 voters. 105K voted. Margin was 10K votes.
All Massie had to do was boost his actual vote turnout from 10.8% to 12.5% of the registered voter pool to win.
He had millions of dollars to do that.
Not to change their minds about him.
JUST TO SHOW UP!
But voters were so unenthused about Massie, that > 70% of his supporters/leaners did not even show up to vote.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:01 pm to Gifman
quote:I don't know, go start a thread and ask the actual people who said Putin controls Trump, not me.
Hold on I thought Putin controlled Trump?
Anyway back on topic, Israel very very obviously tells Trump what to do and he does it. See the Iran War...There isn't a sane and logical person in this world that thinks we'd be in that war right now if not for Israel, not a one.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:04 pm to shel311
quote:
Anyway back on topic, Israel very very obviously tells Trump what to do and he does it.
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