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re: Tucker Carlson: "The Israel lobby takes out Thomas Massie and kills MAGA"

Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:30 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112913 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:30 am to
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Israel largely funded Trump.

Now they are funding his chosen candidates.

Jared Kushner doing work.
That's the other part of this the Trump bros can't really argue out of.

Israel is in control, they control Trump more than any previous President.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139046 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:36 am to
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Translation - if you spend $32million
The whole cost Massie + Gallrein? PACs included?

Gallrein outspent Massie about 3 to 2 in KY-4
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4581 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:38 am to
Massie raised more money than Gallrein
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Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2430 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:42 am to
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I'm just going by campaign records i.e., ~$6M for Massie, ~$9M for Gallrein


This is correct. The $15m attributed to Massie alone is incorrect.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2430 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:43 am to
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Massie raised more money than Gallrein


No he didn’t. How much did you donate to Gallrein and which of his policy proposals is your favorite?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139046 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:48 am to
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This is correct. The $15m attributed to Massie alone is incorrect.
Massie’s campaign outspent Gallrein’s, $5.8 million to $2.6 million, according to FEC data. But super PACs heavily favored the GOP challenger, spending more than $16.4 million to boost Gallrein compared to roughly $10.1 million backing the incumbent. LINK

So this is an all inclusive tally. It's a little different than my previous understanding, and much closer in differential. ~ $16M vs $19M

Massie $5.8M + $10.1M (PAC) = $15.9M total

Gallrein $2.6M + $16.4M (PAC) = $19M total

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139046 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:52 am to
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No he didn’t.
Apparently he did.

I'd read somewhere Gallrein outraised Massie 3 to 2 but now that the numbers are actually in, it looks like that reference may have been to PAC money.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28180 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:10 pm to
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What else are you implying here


Exactly what I said, and I never claimed that money wins political races. I specifically used the word “influence”; would you like to argue that money doesn’t influence political races?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28180 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Money was absolutely dumped into the race.



Yes, it was.

You still never said why turnout matters. What difference does it make if turnout was 25% or 50%?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63800 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:37 pm to
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Possibly you missed this thread... LINK


That was a dumb thread.
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