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re: Tucker Carlson says Ben Shapiro cares more about Israel than America

Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:02 am to
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7127 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:02 am to
This is one reason Republicans lose, infighting over nothing. Does Ben care about Israel? Sure, he is Jewish, I expect nothing less. If Italian Muslims were attacking Vatican City I would expect Catholics in America to care about it just as much as Ben cares about Israel.

Ben is a hardcore conservative and his company has done more to push conservative values than any other company in media by a mile. Trashing one of your best forces for conservatism in this country over a single issues is DUMB, and damages the conservative cause in the future. We don’t have to agree on every nuance of every issue, especially when that issue isn’t a core issue like so many domestic policies. All we are talking about is the level of support for a foreign policy about an ally that most Americans support on the surface anyway.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42655 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:59 am to
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Ben's putting his religion first. I kinda respect it, to be honest. Doesn't make him 100% Israel, 0% USA, does it?


one's religion must always come first - otherwise it it is just a hobby
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42655 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 5:03 am to
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Ben is a hardcore conservative and his company has done more to push conservative values than any other company in media by a mile.


quote:

We don’t have to agree on every nuance of every issue

tru dat - I none of us are absolute on any level
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48964 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 6:28 am to
quote:

he is more interested in whats best for Israel moreso than if its really best for America's interests.


So like our government the last 30 years
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61307 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 6:45 am to
Ben is without a doubt pro-America but would choose Israel over the US any day because of the religious significance.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 6:46 am
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64687 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 6:54 am to
So what
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64687 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 6:55 am to
God Family Country
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8014 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 7:39 am to
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TigerOnTheMountain


There’s the ghost that’s about to owe me a million.

Don’t hide bro.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21930 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 7:44 am to
Apparently you care about what some guy named Tucker says about some guy named Ben
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
4569 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:09 am to
many on this board and the OT seem to care more about israel than america also.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 8:10 am
Posted by Dingbag
Member since Dec 2023
545 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:12 am to
Really weird move to diss Ben Shapiro. That dude is annoying but certainly doesn’t care more about Israel than the country. He cares more than the average Jewish guy in America but he’s been great, he owned Bill Maher on his show saying Trump was way harder on Russia than Obama, and throwing shade at universities for shouting him off campus.
Posted by NotPrepared
Member since Jun 2020
152 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:17 am to
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Dual loyalty

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17762 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:18 am to
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Did you know he thinks America should REMAIN A GLOBALIST MILITARY EMPIRE, PROMOTE A STATE OF PERMANENT WAR AND SUBSIDIZE ISRAEL INTO PERPETUITY?



FIFY!



Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25150 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:27 am to
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one's religion must always come first - otherwise it it is just a hobby



As a non-believer, that's how I see it. Yes, you have to live in the world as is, but also adhere to the rules of your religion which affect your own conduct.

Ben's just being true to himself and his religion/people.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17762 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:29 am to
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Ben is a hardcore NEOconservative and his company has done more to push NEOconservative values than any other company in media by a mile. Trashing one of your best forces for NEOconservatism in this country over a single issues is DUMB, and damages the NEOconservative cause in the future.


FIFY!



quote:

We don’t have to agree on every nuance of every issue, especially when that issue isn’t a core issue like so many domestic policies. All we are talking about is the level of support for a foreign policy about an ally that most Americans support on the surface anyway.


The fact that neoconservatives control all the true levers of power in the reigning GOP establishment is a core issue and is the wellspring of the continuing crisis. Like Mark Levin and Dennis Prager, Shapiro is excellent at documenting the existential threat that Socialism poses to Freedom and especially Religious Liberty.

Yet as members of the Israel Lobby in Conservative Inc.®, they all support continued Empire abroad and thus are unabashed apologists for the Deep State. Perpetuating this nation’s global military Empire is the raison d'être of the Deep State.

Neocon statists such as Shapiro are why any vote in this UniParty® charade is ultimately a vote for the left or right wing of the Deep State. The current crisis continues until the true supporters of limited government expel these wolves in sheep’s clothing from their ranks.





This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 8:36 am
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69632 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:40 am to
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I was going to say that Shapiro was a grifter and opportunist, but I like yours better.


That doesn’t even make sense. Grifters change their opinions to grow their audience. Shapiro isn’t gaining audience with his stance.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 8:41 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23744 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:49 am to
Tucker just hates the Jews. Why does he care that Shapiro wants to see Hamas ground up? Is Tucker pro-Hamas?
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2065 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Same thing with Shapiro. Lower taxes? Less tolerance for crime? Pro 1st and 2nd amendment? Wants the border secure? Is against all this green bs? Yeah, sure, whatever. Did you know he thinks America should have an interest in what happens in the Middle East?


The Shapiros of the world have been yapping and yapping for years. For all the hate they give Trump, no Shapiro conservative has been able to win the Presidency or make any tangible change for the good. At least Trump lowered taxes, facilitated the neutering of Obamacare, tried to build border security(with only resistance from
Shapiro conservatives).

These people only do this to fund their lifestyles and give boomers validation for their failed ideology
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2755 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:53 am to
“Ben Shapiro feels exactly like we do about everything. Except while we are anti-Hamas, he is pro-Israel. So screw him!”
Posted by SWINC
Member since Sep 2022
138 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:59 am to
Tucker right again
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