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re: Trying to stop child trafficking is now "Qanon-adjacent" and "paranoid"

Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3527 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:06 pm to
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Here, teach this little guy some calculus. It would be more productive.


That’s a MAP right there.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:07 pm to
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That’s a MAP right there.
No, it is a GIF.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464606 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:10 pm to
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Good! Why don’t we all explore the heights of your towering intellect and revisit The “Wuhan Lab Leak “ thread.

Remember it? The one in which you revealed your ignorance on the true nature of GOF research?

The one where a literal medical doctor agreed with me, and I'm quoting him "100%"?

Are you a medical doctor?
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 8:11 pm
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:11 pm to
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If you are 6/4", no one cares when you say you are 6'4". If you run a 4.8 forty yard dash, no one cares when you say that you run a 4.8 forty yard dash. If you have a 34" vertical leap, no one cares when you say that you have a 34" vertical leap. But if you tell people that you have a genius-level IQ or scared 1600 on the SAT, they completely lose their shite.


Gonna have to disagree with this. I once mentioned I could benchpress 275 in a conversation where it was actually relevant to mention this, and people didn’t take kindly to the perceived bragging, and benching 275 is statistically far less remarkable than having a 155+ IQ.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
115445 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:13 pm to
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I once mentioned I could benchpress 275 in a conversation where it was actually relevant to mention this
My PR is 250 ... show-off.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62224 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:14 pm to
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if you tell people that you have a genius-level IQ or scared 1600 on the SAT
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3527 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:15 pm to
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No, it is a GIF.


Nope. You have a hang up with kids.

Hopefully you will get caught.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19511 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:15 pm to
The fact you had to point by point try to dissect the overall statement that child trafficking and pedophilia is wrong proves you can’t just say “no, it is wrong.”

Regardless of how someone frames it, it is wrong. Regardless of how ridiculous or stupid their argument is, it is still wrong. Period. But you want to win this internet argument.

So again you.
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And there is that dishonesty again.


Why are you so afraid of just stating that child trafficking is wrong? Have you done so and I just missed it? I don’t think I have, but I am wrong all the time. Here is your chance to say, regardless of semantics; that abusing and trafficking children is wrong.

Or don’t.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464606 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:16 pm to
I once machine squatted something insane (like 700 lbs) after a basketball game (and I didn't work out. that was au naturale) . My max bench for life may not crack 200 lbs, though
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23166 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:16 pm to
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AggieHank86


Again Hank, being seen as “illogical” by the likes of you is a badge of honor.





Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464606 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:18 pm to
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The fact you had to point by point try to dissect

That's what I do.

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Why are you so afraid of just stating that child trafficking is wrong?

I'm not. In fact, I have multiple times in this thread.

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Have you done so and I just missed it?

Multiple times.

Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:20 pm to
Squatting 700 lbs to depth is a powerlifting achievement. In fact I don’t even know if the powerlifters I know can pull that off. My squat max is 375 as of last year.

You super sure you took that squat to parallel?
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3527 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:20 pm to
MAPS resort to bragging about weight lifting when losing
an argument.

I’ll get the word out to normal people.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
34613 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:21 pm to
Liberals/progressives/ democrats are repugnant degenerates. May they ALL burn in hell for eternity.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464606 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:24 pm to
Here is a post of mine specifically discussing, generally, acutally doing something about the issue:

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No. Certain mythologies of child trafficking are, at least statistically, made up.

Those mythologies are used in many forms of conspiracy theories (typically from the Satanic Panic and its progeny).

I mean even the use of the word "child trafficking" is often mis-used. Child trafficking is typically forced labor, not sex. Children are 4x more likely to be trafficked for labor than sex. It gets even worse if you use "human trafficking" because only about 25-33% of the victims of that are children (and, again, it's primarily labor).

LINK

The problem internationally is that these are operations of crime syndicates and warlords (think: Blood Diamond, which focused on child trafficking). Lots of overlap with the same organizations we are "fighting" in the War on Drugs. To really stop this activity (which goes back about as far as humans have lived in societies, if not longer), you have to fight it like the WOD...but in other countries. Since we've seen how great we've done with the WOD, it shouldn't inspire confidence.

The other solution is to enact trade and other policies to raise the standard of living in these areas. The problem with that set of policies, especially as it relates to certain populations dominant on this board, is that it doesn't exactly tie into "America First" principles, which reject free trade internationally and relying on the same populations being threatened with trafficking (who, I might add, are the illegal economic migrants flooding the southern border, often to avoid threats of being trafficked).

Domestically, we can probably do more, but it's still ultimately similar root causes (economic strife leading to social pathology that creates unsafe, abusive homes leading to runaways), mixed in with certain cultures rejecting LGBT children (again, creating runaways). These runaways are 14-17 and can't really work legally, so they are going to end up in the black market. Easiest job in that black market is prostitution (again, another meme as old as human society. This has been happening for 10k years).

We can combat domestic problems by trying to help runaways directly and hoping to get them in a stable situation off the streets and targeting the underlying causes of social pathologies that lead to the abusive homelives (Also remember, these children are often sexually abused prior to going to the streets and that's statistically likely to be a family member or friend of the family sexually abusing the child, not an international cabal of powerful people).

So, if people want to really discuss "human trafficking" and how we combat it beyond virtue signaling, I'm all ears.


And more

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Certain trafficking happens on a "global scale', primarily labor trafficking.

A smaller subset of that is sex trafficking.

A smaller subset of that is child sex trafficking.

Almost all of this occurs outside of the US by organized crime groups.

THEN there is domestic human trafficking, which is a whole different set of populations and behaviors.

Only a very small subset of the overall picture is being dismissed (and those are specific allegations made by Qtards). This is where the dishonesty and/or obfuscation of language comes in.

You say "trafficking is a real thing" and nobody disagrees.

Then you try to say that because people say Q-based trafficking allegations don't exist, those same people are denying ALL trafficking isn't real. That's dishonest.


and again:

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Nobody is arguing that human trafficking doesn't exist, but people dishonestly make this claim (including you) when others state there isn't a cabal of powerful people trafficking children for sex and sacrifice rituals (a typical Qtard belief).

You can believe human trafficking, sex trafficking, child trafficking, and child sex trafficking all exist without that bullshite.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464606 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:25 pm to
Maybe it wasn't 700. This was randomly like 10 years ago. I need to search my messages to karma b/c I think I texted it to him.

Also, machine press not a real squat.

*ETA: perfect example of me saying I'm wrong for those who say I never do/can
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 8:26 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464606 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:25 pm to
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MAPS resort to bragging about weight lifting when losing
an argument.

Again, are you posting from a pdf?
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3527 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:34 pm to
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Again, are you posting from a pdf?


Are you still working on having that first kid?

Don’t.

Please.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19511 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:42 pm to
No where in that did you actually say it was wrong.

Prove me wrong.

Post one of your quotes where you say “child trafficking is wrong”. You haven’t so far. You did at least finally admit child trafficking has occurred and is occurring.

But no where have you specifically stated it is wrong.

Here ia your chance to go on record. Don’t do it with 12 paragraphs of legalize bullshite that says nothing. Just say “child trafficking is wrong”.

This seems SO hard for you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464606 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:44 pm to
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No where in that did you actually say it was wrong.

Yes I provide long, detailed explanations of how to combat things I don't think are wrong all the time

What a stupid response.
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