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Trumps request, Jan 06

Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:48 am
Posted by burger bearcat
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:48 am
After much honest, deep thought... I think Jan 06 was a mistake on DJT part. This isn't me being gaslit by the media, just my own conclusion based on the events that happened.

If people wanted to show up on their own volition then that is a whole other story, and likelywas going to happen anyways. But Trump specifically summoned people there, and therefore will forever be tied to what happened fair or unfair. And people are now dead... I am not saying that is on Trump, but I do believe it was a strategical error for him to be the one requesting everyone's presence. The media will never let this go.

I'm more than happy to listen to why I am wrong, in fact I would like to be wrong on this. But where I am at right now, is this was a bad plan unless Trump new it was going to be a celebration. (but clearly he didn't)
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:50 am to
Our govt is a fraud
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:52 am to
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This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 3:54 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:53 am to
Trump supporters want election integrity addressed. He was supporting them on this important issue. And it is a vital issue that apparently will be ignored unless there are massive protest.

Not only is he right, but these protests need to keep happening until Biden & Congress address it.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 3:55 am
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:55 am to
It wasn’t a good political decision. Makes you wonder if someone in his circle suggested it, even to set him up.

I think his biggest weakness has been his trust which has led him to rely on swamp creatures. On the other hand, we all have to rely on others, it’s a shame that DC is saturated with back-stabbers
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:59 am to
quote:

Trump supporters want election integrity addressed. He was supporting them on this important issue. And it is a vital issue that apparently will be ignored unless their are massive protest.

Not only is he right, but these protests need to k


I don't disagree and I am with you. Just not sure about Trump orchestrating this unless what happened is apart of some greater plan.

Violence was clearly going to happen. People were rightly angry and ready for it. This was different than one of his rallies, people were witnessing in real time an election being stolen.

I guess history will show, but the left sees this as their golden opportunity to destroy Trump and family and will ride it as far as they can take it.

Almost all of my criticism of Trump the last 4 years has been strategy on things like this. I agree with most of his policy.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:03 am to
quote:

It wasn’t a good political decision. Makes you wonder if someone in his circle suggested it, even to set him up.

I think his biggest weakness has been his trust which has led him to rely on swamp creatures. On the other hand, we all have to rely on others, it’s a shame that DC is saturated with back-stabbers


At what point does the buck stop with him? I agree, but also not everything can always be deflected to someone else.

You don't have to be a psychic to know people were going to erupt unless their was good news. Surely Trump and team were aware of how things would go down.

It was a bad call, and the left picked the ball off and trying to run it back.
Posted by Tigers1984
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:04 am to
On one hand, you can continue to do nothing and accept a stolen election

On the other hand, you can try to do something about it, the election still gets stolen and they use the protest to make you look bad

I think it’s a lose lose situation. It Antifa/BLM can demonstrate over any perceived injustices, a stolen election is more than worth protesting over. It just didn’t accomplish anything and people died
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 4:06 am
Posted by Droplinebacker
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:05 am to
Those are all fair points. However, would you be shocked if everything that happened yesterday played out EXACTLY how Trump (with plenty of help from other patriots) had planned it?
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8857 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:10 am to
quote:

On one hand, you can continue to do nothing and accept a stolen election

On the other hand, you can try to do something about it, the election still gets stolen and they use the protest to make you look bad


I get it. Just wish there was another way he could have fought it. Wish he never was tied to the rally, but since he was they will place full blame on him.

If the rally happened organically then so be it.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:12 am to
I think this was Trump's last attempt to pressure Congress, namely Pence, to slow their role and send electors back to the swing states for review.
Posted by Tigers1984
Slidell
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:18 am to
quote:

I get it. Just wish there was another way he could have fought it. Wish he never was tied to the rally, but since he was they will place full blame on him.

If the rally happened organically then so be it.

Honestly, they would still blame him. They have been blaming him for shite he had nothing to do with for 4 years.

I do see what you’re saying though, the fact he requested them to be there just makes it easier to pin it on him and the media onslaught that much worse. It also gave the left more ammo to tar and feather anyone who dares to support Trump in the years to come
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:22 am to
quote:

think this was Trump's last attempt to pressure Congress, namely Pence, to slow their role and send electors back to the swing states for review.




If that was the plan it aopears to have backfired horrendously.
Posted by Armymann50
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:26 am to
never voting again.
Posted by Kraken306
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:27 am to
The Democrats thought the election was rigged in 2016. They didn’t storm the capitol and commit treason in the process, they hired a special counsel to investigate it.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:31 am to
You've been gaslighted congrats
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:33 am to
quote:

The Democrats thought the election was rigged in 2016. They didn’t storm the capitol and commit treason in the process, they hired a special counsel to investigate it.



You mean they tried to rig it by conspiring with Russian intel and fabricating evidence to pull FISA warrants to spy on him, then evolved that into a coup with the special counsel running point.(Weismann was running it, Honest Bob was not mentally capable)

You lying piece of shite
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 4:36 am
Posted by Kraken306
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:39 am to
Was the FISA warrant granted Legally by a judge?
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 4:44 am
Posted by sparkinator
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:40 am to
quote:

Kraken306

Trumps request, Jan 06
The Democrats thought the election was rigged in 2016. They didn’t storm the capitol and commit treason in the process, they hired a special counsel to investigate it.



No. They made up the Russian storyline and media was complicit. There wasn’t any election interference from foreign entities, especially on Trumps behalf. No more than any other election year.
Posted by Kraken306
Member since Nov 2020
51 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:42 am to
Agreed. That’s why they investigated it the right way and didn’t commit treason. We all found out there was no interference.
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