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re: Trump's proposal to limit Section 8 to 2 years taking effect in 2026?

Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:06 am to
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14228 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:06 am to
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This should definitely fix the homelessness problem

Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36678 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:07 am to
Do away with Section 8 altogether.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
18977 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:09 am to
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This would probably also end up depressing housing costs in time, b/c this is free money fueling a lot of the RE market. Removing this will likely lower rents, de-valuing rental properties, and resetting the market on both axes.


Free market baby. We have been hearing about all the young people who can't afford a house. This should open up a glut of cheap houses for them to buy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463741 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:14 am to
My comment wasn't a criticism of the policy
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178905 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:20 am to
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Interested in the mechanics of this.
Is there back doors to this like the Medicaid discussion?


I am sure they will figure out how to game the system still. The mom gets section 8 for 2 years, then the grandmother, then the oldest child, then back to the mom or something.

People will not give up their entitlements easy and there is a whole culture based on teaching each other how to game Gov assistance to the max and beyond into fraud.

I still remember "Obama" phones only having like a few hours talk time each month so people would game the system to get 10 of them at a time. Now they are just free period so they only need one but many still get more than one because they have all been taught to abuse the system.

This will just make them "work" harder for it.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:21 am to
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This should definitely fix the homelessness problem



Thanks for advocating laziness
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36678 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:22 am to
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I am sure they will figure out how to game the system still. The mom gets section 8 for 2 years, then the grandmother, then the oldest child, then back to the mom or something.

Sounds like you already have. Aren't you in rental business?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:26 am to
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Aren't you in rental business?


I have some rentals. Trying to add more for my retirement plan but I do not have any with S8.

I am also a contractor and I have seen horror stories from it that turned me off.

One house we fixed for a guy after his tenant lost S8. The guy was so mad that he took out every outlet and cut the wires into the wall, making them too short. We had to cut sheetrock and rewire every outlet in the house. The landlord was so put off that he sold the duplex after we repaired it and got out of rentals altogether.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:27 am to
Why wait until 2026?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:28 am to
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Why wait until 2026?


Its in the OP. It will change with the 2026 HUD budget sent to states

States get many incentives for LIH. Not all of it is in the form of money. Some of it is tax credits too and its sent out yearly based on population and need.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 9:30 am
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14228 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:28 am to
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The guy was so mad that he took out every outlet and cut the wires into the wall, making them too short. We had to cut sheetrock and rewire every outlet in the house.

The tenant can't be sued or put in jail over that?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69363 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:30 am to
have any liberal federal judges started suing yet? I will be amazed if this ever really goes into effect...and extremely happy.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178905 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:31 am to
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The tenant can't be sued or put in jail over that?



Cops will most likely tell you it's a civil matter, and then you sue and get what? A judgment against someone who owns nothing? That's throwing good money after bad.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18746 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:34 am to
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This should definitely fix the homelessness problem



Too bad nothing exists to fix your chronic retardation.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18746 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:35 am to
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Cops will most likely tell you it's a civil matter, and then you sue and get what?



That's actually a criminal matter when it comes to damaging property.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178905 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:40 am to
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That's actually a criminal matter when it comes to damaging property.


I agree. Where I have seen issues in the past is the fact that it was the tenant and cops saying they had permission to be there, turning it into a civil matter.

I also manage a lot of evictions and once evicted then it would be criminal. The grey area as many cops see it is that this guy was still under his lease when he caused the damage.

Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30838 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:40 am to
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Gov assistance should be a TEMPORARY solution to help people get back on their feet. Not a way of life passed on to generations.


All public housing used to be temporary. A lot of Veterans and their families lived in public housing post WWII. I know a lot of Italians in the New Orleans who's families lived in the Projects until they were able to get on their feet.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6563 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:42 am to
Section 8 is the engine that drives drug distribution in cities. It's spread into apartments and neighborhoods, running out residents from the gang violence that inevitably follows. It ruins communities, most of all the AA community. It is an abomination. There are those who need it, but I'd venture they are in the minority. The rest use it to supplement a criminal livelihood.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36678 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:50 am to
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One house we fixed for a guy after his tenant lost S8. The guy was so mad that he took out every outlet and cut the wires into the wall,
I have heard of this with foreclosures and such and the owners would pour concrete down the toilets showers, sinks, etc., causing thousands in repairs.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178905 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:58 am to
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and the owners would pour concrete down the toilets showers, sinks, etc., causing thousands in repairs.


Yea I mentioned this here before. I have dealt with that as well on the foreclosures we manage for clients.
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