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re: Trump's new label for Ron DeSantis, 'RINO globalist,' has roots in a far-right conspiracy.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I mean, its objective fact. You folks are just very confused on terminology.
American taxpayer money being given to foreign countries via military paychecks, foreign aid and Ukraine is globalism at it's finest.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:48 pm to Jjdoc
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That's not political integration.
Sure it is. Are you trying to say that trade with China has had zero effects on our politics?
That's not political integration.
The problem is tCult has serious problems with definitions, just like Democrats do.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:49 pm to Jjdoc
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No I don't because I understand that Trump, myself and others are not against trade.
Because he's a globalist, not an isolationist.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:52 pm to 93and99
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American taxpayer money being given to foreign countries via military paychecks, foreign aid and Ukraine is globalism at it's finest.
Unless you're 100% isolationist, you're a globalist too.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:52 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
From the text of the order...
"In concert with the efforts of President Trump and the White House Coronavirus
Task Force to fight COVID-19, and based on guidance provided by Florida Surgeon General and State Health Officer, Dr. Scott Rivkees, all persons in Florida shall limit their movements and personal interactions outside of their home
to only those necessary to obtain or provide essential services or conduct essential activities."
"In concert with the efforts of President Trump and the White House Coronavirus
Task Force to fight COVID-19, and based on guidance provided by Florida Surgeon General and State Health Officer, Dr. Scott Rivkees, all persons in Florida shall limit their movements and personal interactions outside of their home
to only those necessary to obtain or provide essential services or conduct essential activities."
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"It's an order to individuals saying ... you can engage in essential services, essential activities but other than that you need to stick close to home," DeSantis said Wednesday during a press conference in Tallahassee. "Under the order you wouldn't be able to go into some of these (businesses) and conduct business and follow the order."
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DeSantis said he's issuing an executive order that will direct "all Floridians to limit movements and personal interactions outside the home to only those necessary to obtain or provide essential services or essential activities."
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Unless you're 100% isolationist, you're a globalist too.
I have no control of my tax money being stolen and given to foreign shitholes.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:58 pm to 93and99
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I have no control of my tax money being stolen and given to foreign shitholes.
Protectionism is still a globalist practice, just to a lesser degree..
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yabba dabba do, baw.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:32 pm to Jjdoc
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The video linked to that tweet used NONE of those words.
Your reading comprehension is off.
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Trump acknowledging DeSantis led the way in keeping FL free/open.
None of that was stated by Trump.
He doesn't have to have said those words verbatim for what I re-tweeted to have been true. You know this.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:44 pm to Jjdoc
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You Mis-characterize what we are about.
The problem is, much like Democrats and their love for word salad, "America First" is in the exact same boat.
You want Trump making trade deals, but claim to hate globalism.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:46 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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I vacationed in FL three times during the height of the pandemic. The place was a breath of fresh air for people who didn't' give a shite about covid.
How did you successfully circumvent all the lockdowns DeSantis put in place?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:54 pm to Bunk Moreland
I will still vote for Trump, but he really needs to change his tune...
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:56 pm to Jjdoc
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You Mis-characterize what we are about.
Easy to do, because ya'lls messaging is really poor.
Claiming to be anti globalist while not being anti globalist is worth raising a few eyebrows over.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:01 pm to Bunk Moreland
Coming from the guy that says “I’m the father of the vaccine, no one’s pushed the fda las much as I did ever. “
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:03 pm to Tiger in Texas
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I will still vote for Trump, but he really needs to change his tune...
Well, he is. He'd have never issued a video message about going to war with trans ideology 6 weeks ago, 6 months ago, etc. Now, whether that will be more than just one off lip service to these culture war battles is questionable.
In addition to being a good substantive move, it may be politically shrewd for Trump if he's trying to force DeSantis to move/decline. DeSantis to date is far, far, far better at speaking to these issues Americans face. He's more invested, knows far more about them and can argue them more competently and persuasively.
Arguably he can't risk letting Trump encroach on that by sitting back while Trump mimics him. That said, it's probably win-win. If he's just doing it temporarily to try and erase a vulnerability he has, it'll fade and Ron will still be king on these topics. If Trump begins to take it seriously, studies the issues and becomes a competent leader on these topics...well, that's better for us if he ends up the nominee.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The messaging is poor as judged or evaluated by whom? Who exactly have you spoken with or interviewed on that particular topic whose eyebrows were raised? Because I’m suspicious that this is merely your own personal opinion that you’re assuming applies to everyone else.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
That's so wrong and I will get into that later.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:51 pm to JudgeHolden
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I'm not sure if you understand
He doesn't. Roger just can't help being edgy.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:52 pm to 93and99
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93and99
Looks like several others have explained this for you.
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