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re: Trump’s Israel peace deal is a fricking disaster

Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:57 am to
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:57 am to
IF a deal like this goes through, I wouldn’t be surprised if some US/Trump strong arming to keep Netanyahu out of prison was laid out. I don’t know why Netanyahu would have agreed to it otherwise. People forget that Netanyahu had got busted for bribery and fraud charges and was going through a trial prior to Oct 7 and it’s not going away.

The Netanyahu Corruption Trial, Explained

Netanyahu hasn’t given a shite about the hostages up to this point, and has sought to prolong the conflict as long as possible.

Times of Israel - Netanyahu said to reject negotiators’ bid to formulate new hostage deal proposal

Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:58 am to
Hope they infected those 1000 with some type of disease which terminates in 9o days if not its not a winning deal
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:00 am to
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I wouldn’t be surprised if some US/Trump strong arming to keep Netanyahu out of prison was laid out.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4723 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:01 am to
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If your wasting your families resources, 100%.



How do you define "wasting"? I agree that helping you and your family would be a waste. Way I see it, pretty much all of Israel's neighbors would actively celebrate and cheer all attacks on America (my family). As far as I know, Israel has not celebrated any attacks on America by those that follow that "peaceful religion".
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:04 am to
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Maybe you can't, but I certainly can. I can put my family first, while still helping your family. Not that I would in your case.


But that isn't what is happening.

Our money is going to Ukraine and Israel. Hurricane victims are an afterthought.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16481 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:12 am to
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MrLSU

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Kimberly Halkett Reporting from Washington, DC President Joe Biden maintains that his team is doing all it can to get a ceasefire across the finish line. Biden has said he wants this to be part of his legacy, and he says that his team is on the brink of getting this agreement done.

This would be based on the proposal he put forward in May of 2024 that would allow for the surge of humanitarian aid, the exchange of Palestinian prisoners for Israeli captives and also would allow for the halt of the fighting.

However, the Trump team is going to act as the guarantors. Donald Trump himself put his own stamp on all of this when he said I want to see these captives released before January 20 or, in his words, “all hell will break loose.”

This is a unique time where, amid all these negotiations, Trump has added a threat to hover over these negotiations and add some urgency while Biden is engaged in diplomacy as well, working the phones in his usual sort of statesman-like manner.


Suck Harder
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 9:54 am
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4723 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:15 am to
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Our money is going to Ukraine and Israel. Hurricane victims are an afterthought.


Thanks to which political party? Which political party have you supported historically? Now which party did you vote for in 2020? Which political party did you vote for in 2024?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:18 am to
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How do you define "wasting"?


Sending any taxpayer money, or using any taxpayer money for any other nation.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15784 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:18 am to
The last thing I would wish to be is a terrorist as Israel has demonstrated their resolve in eliminating this lot of vermin in the past 18 months.

They must feel awfully confident to make this deal and rightly so

They probably chipped these clowns in some manner and was told each will be given a complimentary pager and walkie talkie
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:19 am to
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he has a plan


To release terrorists.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55584 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:24 am to
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Are you implying that Israel, a predominantly Jewish population, shares the predominantly Christian beliefs of America's population?

No, but I think he means that Israel believes in a liberal democratic order which places an importance on the rights of the individual. These are the values of Western Civilization.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 9:25 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:25 am to
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oh no!! His presidency has been a disaster so far!!!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80001 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:30 am to
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To release terrorists
Did you have an issue when Obama and Biden did the same?

I doubt Israel will agree to anything they don't view as manageable.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22476 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:33 am to
Can someone explain to this guy how time works?
Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:33 am to
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Can someone explain to this guy how time works?


Please enlighten me on Chronometry oh Copernicus.

B.C. means before the birth of Christ.

A.D. means after the birth of Christ.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 9:44 am
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22476 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:52 am to
My point soared over your pointed head.

Over "time", lands, borders, nations change. Many nations cease to exist any more. I want to think that is what the post you replied to was implying, and you came back with a wiki history lesson.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17137 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:52 am to
The only thing I want is any American hostages released and zero American troops involved in this mess. I could not care any less if jews and muslims are fighting. Or Ukraine and Russia. As long as Americans are not dying.

Also ZERO gifts of weapons or money to anyone. If Israel wants to buy weapons we should sell them to them but the days of giving other countries weapons or funding needs to end yesterday.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
24823 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:55 am to
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I think he means that Israel believes in a liberal democratic order which places an importance on the rights of the individual.

Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:00 am to
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Over "time", lands, borders, nations change


My links provided are in response to the “Palestine never existed” fringe. If you read it in context, you will understand it.

Just because a people are conquered doesn’t negate their history, culture and right to exist NOR their right to fight for their inalienable rights to live freely as given to them by GOD.



This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 10:14 am
Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:04 am to
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The only thing I want is any American hostages released and zero American troops involved in this mess


What do you know about the “Americans” held hostage by Hamas?

Did any of them serve in the US military?

Did any of them serve in the Israeli Defense Forces?

Were any of them just visiting Israel when captured?

How many are full-time, repatriated residents of Israel?

When you answer these, then tell me how we should commit treasure and blood to rescue them.

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