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re: Trump’s Economy
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:23 am to SoFlaGuy
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:23 am to SoFlaGuy
The issue is the job market right now. Hundreds of thousands of white collar tech workers have been laid off, and virtually every company is in a no hire/no fire situation at best. There are no jobs for college grads, even the ones in “useful” majors. Only around 1/4 of 2025 engineering grads have jobs in their field right now. Usually, that number is closer to 80-90%.
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Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:25 am to 4cubbies
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Are you actually capable of discussing the economy, or is assigning personal blame your only mode?
People don't always say what they believe and they don't always believe what they say, but people always LIVE what they BELIEVE. On black Friday, Americans LIVED that they BELIEVED they could spend more this Christmas than they did in 2024. Be it by credit card, loan or cash Americans spent 9% more than they did last year.
quote:Who's fault would it be other than those that made the decisions? I live in Alabama. From Reconstruction to 2010 my state legislature was controlled by Democrats. There were a few years that Republicans have the governors office but democrats controlled the house and senate for 145 consecutive years. The blame for any problems the state of Alabama had in 2010 was squarely on the shoulders of those that had been in charge. The democrats. Republicans have controlled the state for 15 years and things have improved considerably.
You’re reducing decades of macro-level policy failures, structural decisions, and bipartisan economic mismanagement to “it’s your fault for voting wrong.”
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:33 am to sidewalkside
if you live in a red state you would see prices are coming down everywhere. If you live in a blue state prices aren’t coming down and gas prices are going up.. this is all because of Democrat leadership in states.
Red states are really starting to take off.. are we there yet? NO but there are tons of positive signals showing that this shite is about to take off like a rocket.
It’s not Trump’s fault that democrats are frauding their citizens - it’s not Trump’s fault that 70% of the gas people pay for in blue states are taxed. The economy will never take off in blue states if they don’t get their gas prices down.. that’s where it all starts.
Gas prices are coming down in red states which is causing prices for other things to come down. It’s a snowball effect
Why is gas still over $5 in blue states but well under $3 in red states? Why did I just pay $2.49 for gas in Atlanta but people in California are still paying $5+ gallon?
Why is my milk that I have bought for the past 5 years down by almost $2 where I live but still $8 in NY?
The list can go on and on.
Red states are really starting to take off.. are we there yet? NO but there are tons of positive signals showing that this shite is about to take off like a rocket.
It’s not Trump’s fault that democrats are frauding their citizens - it’s not Trump’s fault that 70% of the gas people pay for in blue states are taxed. The economy will never take off in blue states if they don’t get their gas prices down.. that’s where it all starts.
Gas prices are coming down in red states which is causing prices for other things to come down. It’s a snowball effect
Why is gas still over $5 in blue states but well under $3 in red states? Why did I just pay $2.49 for gas in Atlanta but people in California are still paying $5+ gallon?
Why is my milk that I have bought for the past 5 years down by almost $2 where I live but still $8 in NY?
The list can go on and on.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:34 am to RollTide4547
9% YoY how much of that increase is due to higher prices from tariffs?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:35 am to kingbob
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The issue is the job market right now. Hundreds of thousands of white collar tech workers have been laid off, and virtually every company is in a no hire/no fire situation at best. There are no jobs for college grads, even the ones in “useful” majors. Only around 1/4 of 2025 engineering grads have jobs in their field right now. Usually, that number is closer to 80-90%.
Trades are wide open...maybe college for all and MBA's were an empty promise.
There are plenty of jobs, just people aren't willing to grind their way up and are entitled.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:35 am to FLTech
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if you live in a red state you would see prices are coming down everywhere.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:37 am to 4cubbies
I’ll bite. The Republican Party as a whole has absolutely contributed to out of control spending. That isn’t debatable including Trump. However, only one highly partisan group that composes much of the Democrat base enthusiastically supports more government spending AND unfettered immigration which will send inflation skyrocketing. You support that party therefore you shoulder much of the blame not Trump.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:37 am to RollTide4547
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That's been true since the begging of credit. If you're not stupid and you feel you are worse off today than last year and you believe it will get worse you will spend less this year than last.
Or you’ll finance it. Or you’re anticipating getting additional money that has been promised by the administration. Or you simply don’t care and are going to have some fun and don’t care about bankruptcy because you think things are going to hell no matter what.
But what we do know for certain is that credit card debt is at an all time high. Does that sound healthy to you?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:38 am to SoFlaGuy
Economic lag is a real thing. We are still dealing with covid effects
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:43 am to SoFlaGuy
Inflation continues, and people still experience high prices at the grocery and with consumer goods. Then, of course, housing prices are out of reach for many people. The stock market isn't what drives most everyday opinions about the economy...
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:43 am to jmarto1
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Economic lag is a real thing. We are still dealing with covid effects
2020 and 2021 will be remembered as the breaking point in history books.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:47 am to SoFlaGuy
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Trades are wide open...maybe college for all and MBA's were an empty promise. There are plenty of jobs, just people aren't willing to grind their way up and are entitled
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:48 am to SoFlaGuy
quote:(1) Inflation predating T47 was extreme and pervasive. Resetting it does not unwind the systemic damage and elevated prices already in place prior to Trump's inauguration.
I’m not an economist - can someone tell me what’s so bad? Clearly, I’m missing it.
(2) Unemployment is oft cited as "not that bad." But the claim certainly does not resonate with Gen Z's > 10% unemployment rate.
(3) Housing is unaffordable by recent standards. Prices and loan rates exploded under Biden. Rates remain higher than they should be, given 30yr Treasury levels. Prices have stabilized, butremain high.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:50 am to sidewalkside
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You're making the same mistake as Biden...you can't argue with peoples lived experiences and tell them what they are experiencing and feeling day to day is not happening.
I’ve personally have noticed things have leveled out and are getting better.
The economy is slowly getting better it just takes time. Trumps policies are slowly improving things
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
Shutting down the world economy and printing all the money you want. What could go wrong?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:54 am to jmarto1
Yeah, since Covid, politicians have been scrambling to "fix" things but are just prolonging recovery.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:56 am to SoFlaGuy
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I keep seeing doom and gloom about 26 and the bloodbath that’s inevitable
Victims of MS Now and the other MSM demprogs declining viewership.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:57 am to boogiewoogie1978
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The housing market is a complete shite show. Not his fault but he's in charge.
Rent has declined in most areas. Some hotter real estate markets are still overpriced but overall it’s coming down.
Deportations will have a big effect as far as downward pressure on rent and home prices on smaller more affordable homes
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:58 am to SoFlaGuy
Add other soft consumer commodities, agricultural products, home appliances, electronics, and used vehicles to name a few more.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 11:05 am to FLTech
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Why is gas still over $5 in blue states but well under $3 in red states? Why did I just pay $2.49 for gas in Atlanta but people in California are still paying $5+ gallon?
Here’s a link to Gas Buddy. You’re way off here. The Costco that you’ll see is the one that I fill up at.
Things aren’t as expensive as you think in Cali
Unless you think that the coastal cities are all there is out here.
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