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re: Trump's DOJ will release a report this week that is linking marijuana to violent crime
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:08 pm to silverdude
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:08 pm to silverdude
He is so far out there, I just keep wondering if he is completely on his own. Who in the administration does he discuss/run by what he wants to do with before he just goes ahead. Somebody? Nobody?
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:15 pm to Sentrius
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So make it legal and take away that revenue stream from the cartels.
There is a reason why the cartels are opposed to legal weed. It hurts their business.
Because they're not trying to fight drugs. They're looking to lockup more black and brown for the private prisons. Straight from the Clinton, Nixon, etc playbook.
Dumbasses.
Who gets violent from weed? Lol
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:18 pm to tigercreole
Yes people sit around and smoke weed then decide to go shoot up gas stations.
This is the dumbest shite I've ever read.
This is the dumbest shite I've ever read.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:36 pm to boogiewoogie1978
If he runs with this he's going to lose a LOT of people who've been on the fence about their vote since the election. This is something that the House needs to get on the right side of and oppose him if he comes out with this shite. This fight isn't completely over yet, but the prohibitionists are fighting a losing war over this now and need to realize it quickly. It's going to be legalized and it should be. Stop wasting time and money on stupid shite like this.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:42 pm to antibarner
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There is some truth to it. When you buy pot illegally you are financing criminal activity, maybe even the Mexican Cartels.
So maybe it shouldn't be illegal.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:53 pm to antibarner
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There is some truth to it. When you buy pot illegally you are financing criminal activity, maybe even the Mexican Cartels.
This and Civil Asset forfeitures may be driving me away from TRUMP.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:17 pm to SirWinston
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I don't believe this report.
What don't you believe? This kind of thing is right in the AG's wheelhouse.
This is what happens when you put a massively out of touch social conservative in a position of power.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:22 pm to silverdude
MAGA! 
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:25 pm to silverdude
It's not like you could've linked booze to violent crime during prohibition ...
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:33 pm to Mr.Perfect
Yeah only poor people and 14 year olds smoke it. Everyone else buys American or Canadian weed.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:54 am to silverdude
Yes.The Stoners are out of control.Going wild.The wild,out of control Stoners must be stopped at all costs.
Please Jeff Sessions.Save us from the wild,out of control Stoners.
Please Jeff Sessions.Save us from the wild,out of control Stoners.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:02 am to silverdude
Here it is. When an individual consumes a drug, the individual's perception becomes an expanded/magnified extension of said individual's PSYCHOLOGICAL makeup. Back when, if a solid person in the group consumed hallucinogens...good for all. But if a trouble person joined the party...bad trip. Damn quick. Not rocket science.
Point being...that if a psychologically well-grounded (moral and civically responsible) individual consumes a drug...positive (Personal/Societal) effects may occur...but if a psychologically-problematic individual consumes the same...bad things MAY occur.
I concede the pacifying ("couch") principle up front, regardless the psychology of an individual. Though the 'couch' effect can be highly corrosive re discipline required in holding a job.
Like the possession and use of a gun...availability of a drug can be good or bad...depending on who employs it.
I gave up smoke way back, as a principle stand; full well knowing that a highly disciplined use of it on my part, COULD be a positive thing, for me personally. But having taken the offer of Jesus' Mercy in regard to personal karma and my responsibility toward greater society/my brethren, and noting a particular Scriptural verse (Idea) wherein there are Christian/Theological societal scenarios where a thing that is totally harmless or even positive to me...the truth is that such a scenario (drug use in this case) could be interpreted by an weaker individual who observed me - but who has an addictive Gene set - as being essentially positive. If I choose to act only on the basis of my own personal health, the Good Book calls this the "casting of a (possible) stumblingblock before the weaker brethren". Such being the Principle whereon my sacrificial choice is based. Though being highly impulsive when properly-vision motivated...likely better that I remain grounded in the 'mundane' version of Perception.
That said, I have dear friends who lead healthy, moral and productive lives who do employ drugs (alcohol, smoke, etc.), and who I DO NOT judge in any capacity. Personal belief/choice is between an individual's conscience...and their own Perceptive paradigm of Belief (or dis-belief).
Of course Sessions can link pot use to criminal behavior. Of course individuals with problematic psychology will use drugs...and those drugs will likely become a crutch, rather than a visionary impetus for transformation. In the 'old days', Society and Mother Nature dealt with 'problematic' psychological individuals harshly; and the problems were therein limited. In our new (Egalitarian) *government* paradigm, where subsidization must be *equally* offered with respect to ALL manner of personal belief/choice...well, in effect, we subsidize/enable problematic psychoses to endure, and wreak personal and societal havoc.
It'll all come out in the wash.
Let the downvotes rain down.
Point being...that if a psychologically well-grounded (moral and civically responsible) individual consumes a drug...positive (Personal/Societal) effects may occur...but if a psychologically-problematic individual consumes the same...bad things MAY occur.
I concede the pacifying ("couch") principle up front, regardless the psychology of an individual. Though the 'couch' effect can be highly corrosive re discipline required in holding a job.
Like the possession and use of a gun...availability of a drug can be good or bad...depending on who employs it.
I gave up smoke way back, as a principle stand; full well knowing that a highly disciplined use of it on my part, COULD be a positive thing, for me personally. But having taken the offer of Jesus' Mercy in regard to personal karma and my responsibility toward greater society/my brethren, and noting a particular Scriptural verse (Idea) wherein there are Christian/Theological societal scenarios where a thing that is totally harmless or even positive to me...the truth is that such a scenario (drug use in this case) could be interpreted by an weaker individual who observed me - but who has an addictive Gene set - as being essentially positive. If I choose to act only on the basis of my own personal health, the Good Book calls this the "casting of a (possible) stumblingblock before the weaker brethren". Such being the Principle whereon my sacrificial choice is based. Though being highly impulsive when properly-vision motivated...likely better that I remain grounded in the 'mundane' version of Perception.
That said, I have dear friends who lead healthy, moral and productive lives who do employ drugs (alcohol, smoke, etc.), and who I DO NOT judge in any capacity. Personal belief/choice is between an individual's conscience...and their own Perceptive paradigm of Belief (or dis-belief).
Of course Sessions can link pot use to criminal behavior. Of course individuals with problematic psychology will use drugs...and those drugs will likely become a crutch, rather than a visionary impetus for transformation. In the 'old days', Society and Mother Nature dealt with 'problematic' psychological individuals harshly; and the problems were therein limited. In our new (Egalitarian) *government* paradigm, where subsidization must be *equally* offered with respect to ALL manner of personal belief/choice...well, in effect, we subsidize/enable problematic psychoses to endure, and wreak personal and societal havoc.
It'll all come out in the wash.
Let the downvotes rain down.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:06 am to Ebbandflow
Let's just leave the laws in place and stop enforcing them.
That way we're not wasting time with enforcement, but we can still stigmatize pot smokers as useless criminals
win-win
That way we're not wasting time with enforcement, but we can still stigmatize pot smokers as useless criminals
win-win
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:15 am to silverdude
Stupid arse Sessions with his MUH bible BS. The Trump admin does not have a clue what kind of hornet nest they just kicked.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:51 am to Mr.Perfect
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It's indisputable that potheads don't stop at pot
Are you really going for the "gateway" argument?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:40 pm to silverdude
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a report linking marijuana to violent crime
Fake news.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:49 pm to SoulGlo
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Are you really going for the "gateway" argument?
Well, SG...pot was surely a "gateway" drug for me! I mean, if hallucinogenic drugs can alter reality, wtf should I waste my whole life doing repetitive and mundane tasks (job) in order to buy stuff toys/status/security/freedom/happiness/affluence/etc when I can just get there with a toke. Or even better...a snort!
I honestly do not believe that any "promote the public welfare" Government can essentially endorse the drug option, and remain a credible power for common good. At least without qualifiers re the potential detrimental aspects of drug use.I understand the personal freedom aspect; as there was a day when if I had been challenged in my own space...I'd have melted and came out shooting. Had some close calls..."but by the grace of God". Ignorance on my part.
We have Judges in our System for a reason. It is the 'Guidelines' - Cultural and Legal - and constraints which are placed on our Judges which should mitigate a particular individual's effect on the rest of us, by destructive drug-induced behaviors...and therein their degree of freedom allowed.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:51 pm to silverdude
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DOJ will release a report this week that is linking marijuana to violent crime
It is about time!
We have been looking for that key evidence link for 40+ years.
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