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Trumpers that support increasing immigration for high paying jobs, why?

Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:13 am
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:13 am
Please explain.

It looks like a path to the destruction of the American middle class, a step to socialism to me.

What are you thinking?
Posted by GregMaddux
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:15 am to
This sort of trumper exists in reality or only in your head ?
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:17 am to
People that have high paying jobs are generally contributors to society. And no company is going to give that job to a foreigner if it can be filled by an American. Green card costs can come out to $10,000+/yr for the company, not counting lost productivity time when the employee has to leave the country for renewal.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:19 am to
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Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Trumpers that support increasing immigration for high paying jobs, why?


They are coming regardless so better to have the merit based ones that can contribute and assimilate
Posted by SteadyHand
Out and About
Member since Nov 2018
267 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:22 am to
What?
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:24 am to
quote:

And no company is going to give that job to a foreigner if it can be filled by an American.


Someone doesnt work in the tech industry....
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:24 am to
Maybe the average American should rethink his/her work ethics. Shorter hours with higher pay pales in comparison for businesses looking for employees that don't mind working normal to longer hours at a decent rate of pay.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:25 am to
Exactly, opened the thread to say something like this, plus what SDV said

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89538 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:27 am to
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Please explain



You want me to explain why I would want to import limited numbers of high skill workers in areas where we have shortages instead of unlimited waves and waves of unskilled, poverty stricken folks who:

1. Aren't even literate in their first language, much less English,

2. Work day labor jobs, either off the books or with stolen SS numbers,

3. Don't assimilate even 2 and 3 generations later, resulting in large swaths of the country now looking like the Central/South American shitholes they fled.

I'm not sure how to even respond to that.
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 8:41 am
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:30 am to
quote:

People that have high paying jobs are generally contributors to society. And no company is going to give that job to a foreigner if it can be filled by an American. Green card costs can come out to $10,000+/yr for the company, not counting lost productivity time when the employee has to leave the country for renewal.


Wrong. Companies love these visa holders. They can pay them less and treat them like indentured servants.
Posted by GregMaddux
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:32 am to
They can pay all of us less
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Ace Midnight

Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1846 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:33 am to
Why is it difficult to distinguish legal and illegal for most of the liberals?

If someone legally comes into this country with a needed skill set it boosts our middle class because 1) we are adding skilled workers and their family to our population 2) they actually pay taxes for the services provided.

Weak arsed “gotcha”. I hope you didn’t spend a lot of time mulling over this before posting.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:34 am to
I think we prefer to have high skilled immigrants over lazy ones that don’t work . We don’t need any immigrants right now .
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39488 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:34 am to
Try to understand the issue better, then come back.
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18212 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:36 am to
You’re wrong. It’s hurting the pay in many industries.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112483 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Wrong. Companies love these visa holders. They can pay them less and treat them like indentured servants.


Well, you've just shifted your thread from higher to lower. If the next Albert Einstein wants to immigrate here from Germany and teach physics at Princeton I have no problem with it. I don't think he'll feel like an indentured servant.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Wrong. Companies love these visa holders. They can pay them less and treat them like indentured servants.

you obviously don't understand the world around you

immigration by the highly skilled is how we established ourselves as a super power

high skilled engineers, doctors & scientists add tremendous value to the country

do they make less than their American counterparts in the early stages? in some cases, sure; but that does not last for long

this may come as a shock to you, but "highly skilled" individuals tend to be in demand & that tends to drive their pay up; this is true whether they are immigrants or natural born citizens

the free market ALWAYS works like this

you're going to have to try harder on your next "gotcha"

Posted by GregMaddux
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Member since Jun 2011
18212 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:40 am to
quote:

do they make less than their American counterparts in the early stages? in some cases, sure; but that does not last for long


Wrong. Everyone’s paid the same. And it’s less because of hyper immigration.
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