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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:39 pm to AlaTiger
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If he offers the full 11 million for the Wall, that might get the Democrats to agree. Would you favor that deal?
frick no. They'll just undermine the wall process anyway. They don't have any principle. We've already given amnesties in the past and they blew up in our face. 11 million illegals just granted citizenship? That is fricking absurd. Absolutely absurd and it's shameful and embarrassing that ANY American leaders would require that for ANY compromise on anything.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:40 pm to SelaTiger
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There was never going to be a wall.
I'ts kind of been Trump's model this entire time....even years ago. He's been sued so many times by people that worked for him not getting paid, he had to settle out of court with Trump University students when they realize they weren't actually receiving any sort of Education, and now Republican voters are eventually going to wake up and find that they were lied to. We told you all along and you wouldn't listen and I know this is what you get
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:51 pm to AlaTiger
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They offered the Wall for legalizing Dreamers last year. Trump rejected that deal.
You are fake news
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:53 pm to AlaTiger
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They offered the Wall for legalizing Dreamers last year. Trump rejected that deal.
Like a true liberal liar. He offered and they denied it and he just did it again and Pelosi said nope
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:55 pm to AlaTiger
I don't want a wall from CA to Texas. No one does.
So no. I don't want 13 million or so new dem voters. No sane person would want that.
So no. I don't want 13 million or so new dem voters. No sane person would want that.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:11 pm to AlaTiger
So I’ve kept it to myself to see how long it would take the general populace to come to that conclusion. My compromise:
1. Build wall. Secure border. This fixes the issue for illegal crossings moving forward.
2. Legalize DACA fully. It really isn’t their fault they are here. Sure they could go back, but for what reason except to say that “I deported them”.
3. Permanent residency for the remainder. Not citizenship. They aren’t here to be citizens. They’re here to reap the benefits of the American economic machine. This gives them that. And it does not give them voting rights. They decided to forego that right the moment they came here illegally.
4. Back breaking fines on folks convicted of employing illegals there after. I’m talking going out of business size fines.
5. Find a way to modernize the current legal system. It’s fricking archaic.
Probably get downvoted to hell. Guess I just found my second most liberal viewpoint.
1. Build wall. Secure border. This fixes the issue for illegal crossings moving forward.
2. Legalize DACA fully. It really isn’t their fault they are here. Sure they could go back, but for what reason except to say that “I deported them”.
3. Permanent residency for the remainder. Not citizenship. They aren’t here to be citizens. They’re here to reap the benefits of the American economic machine. This gives them that. And it does not give them voting rights. They decided to forego that right the moment they came here illegally.
4. Back breaking fines on folks convicted of employing illegals there after. I’m talking going out of business size fines.
5. Find a way to modernize the current legal system. It’s fricking archaic.
Probably get downvoted to hell. Guess I just found my second most liberal viewpoint.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:15 pm to AlaTiger
Is this your theory?
The great compromise.
Might work.
I approve.
My version is to make it a felony to hire one.
Muh fake ID.
The great compromise.
Might work.
I approve.
My version is to make it a felony to hire one.
Muh fake ID.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:17 pm to AlaTiger
quote:he's got 6 more years.
Now that Trump lost the House.....He isn’t getting the Wall.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:18 pm to gthog61
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frick no
The democrats would welsh on that in a heartbeat again
FIFY
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:22 pm to AlaTiger
Offer no deportation of the illegals currently in the country (i.e. grandfather them in) and an expedited path to citizenship, but still don't legally allow them to vote in national elections; leave it up to the states whether they're allowed to vote in state and local elections.
All in exchange for funding the wall.
All in exchange for funding the wall.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:31 pm to AlaTiger
If he can legalize pot I will build the wall myself.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:33 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:if Trump builds the wall, then future Republican candidates can't promise to do so
he's got 6 more years.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:35 pm to fjlee90
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illegally.
4. Back breaking fines on folks convicted of employing illegals there after. I’m talking going out of business size fines
I doubt you would be happy with the application of the statute.
Judge wink. Slap wrist.
Fines don't get the job done.
Jail time for owner, manager, for cfo and president.
90 day first offense.
5 years 2nd offense.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:44 pm to Adam Banks
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quote:
Trump openly supported amnesty last year
and Democrats still wouldnt come to the table.
and he knew they wouldn't which is why he supported it, to make them look as extreme as they are
amazing the slow people who cannot pick upon that
Stupid people are so fricking tiresome.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:00 pm to brian_wilson
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they won't offer that deal, they won't offer any deal tbh. Why would they?
The next time you extol the virtues of compromise in relation to your expectations of a Republican politician, you will probably wonder why your post drowns in a torrent of downvotes.
That's an eloquent way of saying, I hope you drop dead.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:10 pm to AlaTiger
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If he offers the full 11 million for the Wall, that might get the Democrats to agree. Would you favor that deal?
No, not at this point. After the wall is built perhaps.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:10 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:This never was about the Democrat Plantation string-a-long. Did you presume otherwise?
then future Republican candidates can't promise to do so
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:14 pm to NC_Tigah
There will be no "wall" as Trump and his minions seem to want. The November 6 election took care of that. Democrats defeated Republicans by 8.5% of the total vote in the 435 House elections. No "wall."
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:23 pm to GeorgeWest
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There will be no "wall" as Trump and his minions seem to want.
Ryan and the republican house did not see fit to allocate the funds.
Don't try to blame democrats.
Republicans had potus, both houses and never funded wall.
Trump made good on trade war, oops. 90 days. Temp o freeze.
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