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Trump won the election in 2020. So what?

Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:22 am
Posted by Shreveportolewarskul
Member since Jan 2022
110 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:22 am
Don't get me wrong let's push for state and local election laws that will make it harder but this stolen election dialect won't win the 2024 election.

Nixon in 1960 had a for better case than Trump but he gave way and that led in its weird sort of way to Reagan.

I hate to admit but who really believes Gore didn't win Florida? In retrospect he'd have been a one term fool with all the 9/11 baggage and someone else for the GOP would have beaten him in 2004. Obama might not have happened.

Who knows but at least 3 elections in the 1800s were probably stolen. 1876 for damn sure. Samuel J. Tilden conceded and it led to arguably the best first term president in Grover Cleveland. And he won a second non consecutive term that was tarnished by a depression not of his making.

Tilden gave us Cleveland, who from a conservative perspective is top 3 all time of not at the top.

There is no infallible evidence for Trump. He likely won but he lost and its been daln near two years and we've gotten no further.

The Russian false flag is where we need to spend our energy.

Posted by Shreveportolewarskul
Member since Jan 2022
110 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:35 am to
We can't overturn 2020. The evidence is not sufficient to turn the masses in our direction. So it's time to focus on beating the left while on a state level ensuring election integrity.

Trump should fight for this election reform mantle while handing over the torch. He can't do both and even if he could our guy can't win a general election against anyone not named Biden or Harris.

Fight the fight but pass the torch to DeSantis for the prize.

This talk I read here about Trump and them 2 terms of DeSantis is ludicrous.

Reminds me of the dream of two terms of Martin ban buren and then 2 of Thomas hart benton. That would have been glorious but things like that don't happen. The only expecting is FDR using wwii to propel himself to four terms.

Thank God the constitution was amended or as we all know Obama would be in his fourth term right now.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10149 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:59 am to
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our guy can't win a general election against anyone not named Biden or Harris.

Like who? Really...who else do you think they are likely to trot out?
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14037 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:10 am to
These fake concern threads are not only embarrassing and exhausting, but glow brighter than the surface of the sun

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58900 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:10 am to
Yes they do.
Posted by Shreveportolewarskul
Member since Jan 2022
110 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:02 am to
Can Trump win the 2024 election at 78? That's the only question. Best I've seen is 44% in a skim win over Biden. He gets 4% extra as we've discovered the past 2 cycles. So he again gets at best 48% and must somehow sweep the swing states.

DeSantis is the best option. I'd sooner drink my piss than vote for anyone but Trump, DeSantis or Paul. Only one of those can win.

Biden STILL wins the election tomorrow if it's Trump. Trump lost and never can regain a critical 2 to 3 % of the swing vote.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:11 am to
And we have another one…
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79744 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:37 am to
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And we have another one…


Yep. They’re crawling out of the woodwork.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10149 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:41 am to
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Biden STILL wins the election tomorrow if it's Trump. Trump lost and never can regain a critical 2 to 3 % of the swing vote.

It's the economy, stupid. -- Carville
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14037 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:44 am to
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Biden STILL wins the election tomorrow if it's Trump. Trump lost and never can regain a critical 2 to 3 % of the swing vote.

Biden wins no legal election vs anyone tomorrow and Trump “lost” the swing states because they stopped counting at the same time and printed counterfeit ballots for a week
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 4:51 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25105 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:45 am to
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There is no infallible evidence for Trump


Yes there is. Plenty of it. Why do people keep pretending otherwise?
Posted by Shreveportolewarskul
Member since Jan 2022
110 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:01 am to
I agree he should have won. But what matters is what people think happened.

If Trunp is our best shot for 2024 and even now is tied with Biden then Heaven help us.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10149 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:06 am to
All this talk is bullshite.

If Trump runs DeSantis has said he would not.

We will have an easy choice once Trump decides whether he runs or not...there are no other choices.

Who are you trying to convince otherwise?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27166 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:38 am to
So what? Really?

So in your mind it doesn’t matter if an election was stolen?

Good grief, I bet you take it from behind willingly…
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123957 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:45 am to
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I hate to admit but who really believes Gore didn't win Florida?


Everyone but Chris Wallace?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32265 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:46 am to
lesson #1 for newbies: Don't answer your own post
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8382 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:55 am to
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I hate to admit but who really believes Gore didn't win Florida?


Gore lost in every recount they performed. Every. Recount. Gore was never close to winning Florida.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68007 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:58 am to
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let's push for state and local election laws that will make it harder


The point above is the key, and the examples of sketchy past elections drive it home. This country may never have had a credible presidential election in its history.

It is reasonable to assume that any election system that can't be fully audited is corrupted.

With an election system that is not fully auditable, the starting assumption has to be fraud. Fix it or live with that assumption.



Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34232 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 6:41 am to
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So it's time to focus on beating the left while on a state level ensuring election integrity.


Like Georgia?

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111554 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 6:46 am to
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I hate to admit but who really believes Gore didn't win Florida?


Me.
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