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re: Trump will set price floors to combat China

Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Just admit you lack the ability to understand it.


He asked you to connect the trade war to China's faltering economy. Your response was trade war bad. You definitely didn't adress the question. It's a fair question since you brought it up.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:25 pm to
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Ok, since the materials that will be critical to every piece of critical technology isn't the right war


I suggest getting cozy with Canada and Russia, and quickly.

But no, all you can think of is price controls.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:25 pm to
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China has trillions in real estate that will never be inhabited. they are a walking time bomb.

You beat China by playing the long game. Invest outside of china, move mfg to Mexico and India.

Bingo! But you have to get there.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:25 pm to
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He asked you to connect the trade war to China's faltering economy.


There is no real connection.

Their faltering economy is a result of their own idiotic policies int he past.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:26 pm to
Can you post your answer I missed it.

You stated china’s economy is faltering and I asked then how does this affect the on going trade war with the US.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:26 pm to
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But no, all you can think of is price controls.


Unnecessary. I'm posting about a lot of things, but yes I am thinking of the topic of the fricking thread.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:26 pm to
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Bingo! But you have to get there.

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Then we better get cozy with Canada and Russia. We better invest in the NW Arctic development.

Because those two nations are ahead of us too, in that regard.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299431 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:27 pm to
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You stated china’s economy is faltering and I asked then how does this affect the on going trade war with the US.


It doesn. The trade war is based on manufactured outrage.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:28 pm to
Trump signed a trade agreement with Canada that included rare earth's in 2020.

I suspect any additional cozying with Russia is on temporary hold at the moment.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:28 pm to
No connection between their economy and the trade war. Ok but that seems dense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Trump signed a trade agreement with Canada that include rare earth's in 2020.


Which is the trade agreement he bitched about when re-elected and wanted to do over.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:30 pm to
Ok
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:31 pm to
Roger, is our economy faltering?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:33 pm to
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China has trillions in real estate that will never be inhabited. they are a walking time bomb.

You beat China by playing the long game. Invest outside of china, move mfg to Mexico and India.


China does really need US agriculture. Their meteoric rise is due to the green/agricultural revolution of the 20th century. They rely on ghost acres.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 1:34 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299431 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:33 pm to
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No connection between their economy and the trade war.


So far. Evidently not much. Why do you think Donny's putting out ridiculous 130% tariffs on China?

They've become the number one EV maker without the US market.

They have the ability to quickly re-assess and adapt. We're stuck having a 78 year old man make trade agreements for private industry.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299431 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:34 pm to
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Roger, is our economy faltering?


Its run on debt.

Its not working, its being permanently subsidized with massive debt

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:42 pm to
I too think our greatest weapon against china is encouraging manufacturing outside of china. A Marshall plan huge in scope covering multiple nations so to speak. I’ve certainly seen evidence it’s happening I just don’t know if it’s slow rolling or on as quick of a pace as possible.

I learned years ago that the Houses are cowards. Neither side wants to do a real budget just CRs. Pubs learned that the nation wants stuff no matter the cost and learned being the adult in the room was poisonous to election. It will go like this until it can’t go any further.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 1:46 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299431 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:44 pm to
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I too think our greatest weapon against china is encouraging manufacturing outside of china.


this has been happening since Covid.

China has actually priced themselves out of the market for low level mfg in some cases and companies are offshoring to Mexico, Vietnam and India.

Chinese wages rising mean they will be doing less low level mfg.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63318 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:48 pm to
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Lost in winning...
I guess if you define "implementing Bernie Sander's policies" as "winning"... I however, "winning" an election and implementing your opponent's policiies is... well not winning in any meaningful manner.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63318 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:52 pm to
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We never should have opened trade with a communist regime like China in the first place

You sure? Between this, tariffs, and state-owned industries Trump seems more intent on copying them, not 'defeating' them... why treat them like an enemy when we are busy adapting the market ideals they have used (and are widely abandoning). A bit ironic, don't you think?
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