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re: Trump will go to Supreme Court if impeachment proceedings start

Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18792 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:48 pm to
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Desperate.


Y'all sure are.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:50 pm to
Congress can’t impeach him if he didn’t commit a crime. Supreme Court can determine this. His impeachment wouldn’t be constitutional. Equal branches and all...
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39203 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:52 pm to
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Congress can’t impeach him if he didn’t commit a crime.

Yes they can. The phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" has never been defined. It means whatever Congress says it means and unfortunately for this Congress that could mean anything from mean tweets to taking an extra scoop of ice cream.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36050 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:54 pm to
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Supremes already ruled that only Congress runs the impeachment process

And judicial review provides the Court with the prerogative to re-address this situation. The High Crimes and Misdemeanors standard should not simply be whatever Congress wishes, or else the House could impeach and the Senate could remove for any reason whatsoever.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:55 pm to
Our Orange Savior is right.

We can’t have a Republic if the losing side uses everything at it’s disposal to usurp the election results that don’t go their way.

You want a Banana Republic? That’s how you get a Banana Republic.

In our system, you are supposed to lose and regroup to figure out how to win. You don’t lose and then figure out how to undo the losing.

Scary shite.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:55 pm to
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FYI, Mr Trump, Supremes already ruled that only Congress runs the impeachment process, per Constitution. There is no appeal.
They can't use fraud in the process. Thus involving the Supreme Court. Smart move.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:00 pm to
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Congress can’t impeach him if he didn’t commit a crime.


but he did.. so there's that
Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
23339 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:02 pm to
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bmy


I wonder how long you sit and think before you post. You're a retarded arse bitch of a poster, among a sea of retarded dem posters.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:02 pm to
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but he did.. so there's that


According to who?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:03 pm to
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And judicial review provides the Court with the prerogative to re-address this situation. The High Crimes and Misdemeanors standard should not simply be whatever Congress wishes, or else the House could impeach and the Senate could remove for any reason whatsoever.


The House "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" and the Senate "shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments," according to the Constitution. A 1993 Supreme Court decision says the courts have no role to play in that process, although Chief Justice John Roberts would preside over a Senate trial.

“If the President does something dastardly, the impeachment process is available. No single prosecutor, judge, or jury should be able to accomplish what the Constitution assigns to the Congress.” -Brett Kavanaugh
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:04 pm to
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This just shows how fearful he is.



Horse shite

You lying mother frickers are 2 years past being tiresome.

He is PISSED. He is not fearful.

God damned simpletons

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36050 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:04 pm to
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but he did

Mueller had the opportunity to state that a crime was committed and that, but for him being President, Trump would be indicted. He didn't do that. By every legal standard that has ever existed in this country, there is zero legal culpability.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:06 pm to
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but he did.. so there's that

What crime? Mueller said there wasn't enough evidence to conclude Trump committed a crime. You are straight up lying...again
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30114 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:06 pm to
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Desperate.

FYI, Mr Trump, Supremes already ruled that only Congress runs the impeachment process, per Constitution. There is no appeal


That so-called "DOJ Policy" though. The one concluding that making a sitting President defend himself against charges is to be avoided.

Sure, that document spoke specifically to criminal charges, but the analysis and justification applies equally to impeachment proceeding, if one's being honest. The basis of the DOJ document being "impermissibly undermines capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions." That boils down to "President has to turn the majority of his attention to defending himself...to the detriment of presidential duties."

That was relied upon so heavily in Mueller's choice not to pursue any charge against Trump...same wouldnt apply here in theory, if being honest?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36050 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:07 pm to
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The House "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" and the Senate "shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments," according to the Constitution. 

This references the process for removal, not the legal standard required for initiating the process.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20228 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:09 pm to
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Yes they can. The phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" has never been defined. It means whatever Congress says it means


I am afraid you are correct here. The impeachment/conviction and removal process was left as a political beast. The founders assumed we as the people could hold the party in the wrong accountable as a "checks and balance" on this. The conviction and removal threshold is high as an extra safeguard. Even though congress has the power to conduct the whole process, we the voter are charged with oversight on their actions should they over-reach.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16631 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:10 pm to
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And, more than 60,000,000 Americans will take to the streets.


Good. I’m sure they need the exercise.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:10 pm to
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Yes they can. The phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" has never been defined


If only there where a branch of government with the constitutional responsibility to define/interpret the constitution
Posted by Dayman
Member since Sep 2015
713 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:13 pm to
I fricking love this orange bastard. Never back down
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:13 pm to
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This references the process for removal, not the legal standard required for initiating the process.



All the house needs to initiate the process is to bring the formal charges...The USSC can't stop that.
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