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Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:46 pm to medium_okra
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North Atlantic, brother
I guess you missed the CNN headline where one of their journalists said it a few days ago.
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:55 pm to AlterEd
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And he can also say that he won't send any troops to their defense should Article 5 be evoked.
Problem is, Article 5 has only been invoked once -- following the Sept 11 attack. Kinda like winning the first pot in poker and leaving with the money.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 5:29 pm to ATrillionaire
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Problem is, Article 5 has only been invoked once -- following the Sept 11 attack. Kinda like winning the first pot in poker and leaving with the money.
If we're going with a poker analogy, would you agree it's fair to quit the game if you're the only one paying the ante?
Posted on 4/8/26 at 5:35 pm to phaz
If we eliminate the ~ $1 Trillion annually we spend on NATO and have these freeloaders pay for their own defense, that would go a long way towards making the tariff replacing all federal income tax math work out.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 5:37 pm to Kjnstkmn
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Starmer just bluffed and Putin called it.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 5:40 pm to Indefatigable
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We have never participated or even been pressured to participate in anything on NATO's behalf.
you should google "The Cold War". It lasted 45 years.
We pulled out of SEATO and we can pull out of NATO.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:38 pm to LSUPilot07
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It needs to happen just to show Europe how fricked they are without our military to protect them.
They're not. Europe has 500 Million people, a GDP close to that of the US, advanced technology, nuclear weapons, and a surprising conventional arsenal when you add it all up. The Russia of today can't even beat Ukraine--they would get absolutely pummeled in a conventional war with a united Europe.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:43 pm to Kjnstkmn
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If we eliminate the ~ $1 Trillion annually we spend on NATO and have these freeloaders pay for their own defense, that would go a long way towards making the tariff replacing all federal income tax math work out.
All of you please repeat after me until it sticks in your brains:
THE ~ $1 TRILLION WE PAY IS OUR OWN DEFENSE BUDGET. WE DO NOT PAY THIS MONEY TO NATO. WE CAN STOP PAYING IT, BUT ONLY IF WE WANT TO STOP HAVING OUR OWN DEFENSE.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:45 pm to Indefatigable
Nothing, really? That's a pretty retarded statement
Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:02 pm to Barstools
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Nothing, really? That's a pretty retarded statement
What are you envisioning that would get cheaper or easier post-NATO?
Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:03 pm to Rebel
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you should google "The Cold War". It lasted 45 years.
And NATO did—-nothing as a body outside of conduct exercises.
Presumably we’d train our military regardless of whether we’re a member of NATO
We also didn’t unilaterally leave SEATO. The whole thing dissolved.
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:05 pm to Kjnstkmn
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If we eliminate the ~ $1 Trillion annually we spend on NATO
It’s scary how many on here think this is an accurate statement
Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:07 pm to LightHeat
It’s completely amazing that people still think there’s some common NATO military pot that countries pay into. I don’t understand how so many here still do not understand.
Sure everyone contributes for admin costs, but that is pennies and pays for personnel and offices that we would have anyway.
Sure everyone contributes for admin costs, but that is pennies and pays for personnel and offices that we would have anyway.
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
trump baller room to be built with foreign steel
sorry merica!
https://archive.ph/qhwe5
where do you spot the lie?
sorry merica!
https://archive.ph/qhwe5
where do you spot the lie?
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“He said, ‘Sir, I’d like to donate the steel for your ballroom,’” Mr. Trump told the crowd. “I said: ‘Whoa., that’s nice.’ And I found out — ‘How much is the steel?’ I called the contractor. ‘Sir, it’s down for $37 million.’ I said, ‘This is a nice donation, right?’”
Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:08 pm to BayouBengal51
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Starmer just bluffed and Putin called it.
No, Starmer said the UK would seize illegal shipments on Russian vessels.
He did not say they would seize Russian navy ships.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:09 pm to Rza32
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He's always talked about it, just do it already, enough talk.
Well, he can’t so there’s that.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:09 pm to phaz
frick NATO. Every other country isn't paying their 2%? Time to get the frick out. Europe is making their bed. Let em sleep in it.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:10 pm to Indefatigable
Are you saying countries don’t pay money directly to NATO which helps fund “nato” bases and other things?
Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:11 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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It’s scary how many on here think this is an accurate statement
while a trillion is a tad hyperbolic, we have spent around 25 trillion on NATO since it's inception plus keep around a trillion dollars worth of assets at NATO bases. That's without the nukes.
it's a shite ton of money for no ROI.
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