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re: Trump threatens to send in Military and close Southern Border with Mexico
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:15 am to Cruiserhog
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:15 am to Cruiserhog
quote:
like Trump you wingnuts dont understand the difference between illegals and refugees seeking asylum. There is no law that can stop a refugee from seeking asylum in the United States. I do understand that brown people coming from other countries scares the shite out of Trump and his ignorant bigoted followers and even though this clown has disgraced and embarrassed this nation, less fortunates still believe this land offers better.
So, per your Premise...the whole Third World can come here and claim Political Asylum and remain, being entitled to Government Subsidization, and ultimate Citizenship? And there will be no changes ("fundamental change") to our Constitutional Republic, personal affluence/economic security and quality of life.
You must think we are saps, CH. But what you and your ilk THINK, really don't matter in regard to the chosen ACTIONS of those of us who see the bottom line of what is coming down. "Fundamental change", via Open Border. Won't happen without a real dog fight.
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:16 am to Cruiserhog
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refugees seeking asylum
Are supposed to stop in the first country... Not pass through several to get to us
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:24 am to HailToTheChiz
quote:
Are supposed to stop in the first country... Not pass through several to get to us
Bingo, once they transited Mexico they are no longer refugees and forfeit all rights to asylum as per the Geneva Convention.
This is what Trump needs to make crystal clear, they will be Mexico's problem if they let them in.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:37 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:No.
Doesn’t international law dictate you have to move to the closest adjacent country for asylum?
There is nothing in international law to say that refugees must claim asylum in the first country they reach. A European regulation allows a country such as the UK to return an adult asylum seeker to the first European country they reached.
We do not live in the EU.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:39 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
quote:The last time they tried this, didn’t the Army shoot and kill an American citizen who was gathering his goats for the evening down in South Texas?
This is long overdue. Our military could shut the border down in 2 days if they were serious about it.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 8:50 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:43 am to RCDfan1950
quote:Did you find an online Trump Tweet Generator app, complete with Random Capitalization and grammar Errors?
So, per your Premise...the whole Third World can come here and claim Political Asylum and remain, being entitled to Government Subsidization, and ultimate Citizenship? And there will be no changes ("fundamental change") to our Constitutional Republic, personal affluence/economic security and quality of life.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:46 am to cave canem
quote:I love the way one person can make an erroneous assertion, and it suddenly becomes a forum truism if it suits the prevailing narrative.quote:Bingo, once they transited Mexico they are no longer refugees and forfeit all rights to asylum as per the Geneva Convention.
refugees seeking asylum ... are supposed to stop in the first country... Not pass through several to get to us
This is what Trump needs to make crystal clear, they will be Mexico's problem if they let them in.
That is an EU regulation only. We do not live in the EU.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:47 am to AggieHank86
quote:
We do not live in the EU.
Thank god.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:52 am to AggieHank86
quote:
There is nothing in international law to say that refugees must claim asylum in the first country they reach
And there's nothing in our law which states we have to let every swinging dick that shows up at our doorstep in and give them citizenship.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:52 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
All I see in those pictures are males. So you're saying they are seeking asylum while leaving their families back home? Damn you're gullible.
And all you will see at the border liberal attorneys informing them on exactly what to put in the application to get approved. Same as last time.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:54 am to AggieHank86
quote:
here is nothing in international law to say that refugees must claim asylum in the first country they reach.
But there is this:
quote:
Political asylum in USA. Asylum may be granted to people who are already in the United States and are unable or unwilling to return their home country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.
So there's that.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:56 am to Wolfhound45
I would request a high year tenure waiver from the Reserves if I could get deployed to the border with Mexico.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:01 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:01 am to CptRusty
quote:Agreed. Have I ever said otherwise?quote:And there's nothing in our law which states we have to let every swinging dick that shows up at our doorstep in and give them citizenship.
There is nothing in international law to say that refugees must claim asylum in the first country they reach
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:04 am to Da Sheik
I'm glad we have a president who is willing to protect our border while doing it in a manner which inspires other countries come to terms with their own border issues.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:08 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:07 am to Cruiserhog
quote:
Cruiserhog
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:07 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Did you find an online Trump Tweet Generator app, complete with Random Capitalization and grammar Errors?
I type off the top of my head, AH; generally ignoring the tedium of grammar. Capitals are allocated to impart Institutional or greater Political Movement status on what would otherwise be less powerful entities (Entities).
"Strain at a gnat...swallow a camel".
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:08 am to CoachDon
quote:And they have to apply to the 1st available nation...like the neighboring nation, not one 3 countries away.
It does dictate that they are seeking asylum from prosecution - religious, political
quote:Gee, this sounds like they are heading straight into being persecuted! Which leads into the question: How can they be seeking freedom from persecution by applying to a nation that would persecute them?
most of them just want to come over and mooch off the system and take advantage of our new fricked up left wing sissy agenda of mass inclusion.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:08 am to Homesick Tiger
The word I saw is MAY , not MUST. If they try and force the issue, and they will, arrest them all. Load them on buses. Take them straight to the nearest airfields where military transport can be waiting and fly them back where they came from.
Shut that border and squeeze Pedro and the cartels good and hard. If they want to shoot it out with the US Military good luck.
Shut that border and squeeze Pedro and the cartels good and hard. If they want to shoot it out with the US Military good luck.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:11 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:10 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Agreed. Have I ever said otherwise?
nope. just a point of clarification for the overall context of this discussion.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:14 am to Sidicous
quote:If you say if often-enough, perhaps it will become true.
And they have to apply to the 1st available nation...like the neighboring nation, not one 3 countries away.
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