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re: Trump should not run for President in 2024
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:01 am to RollingwiththeTide
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:01 am to RollingwiththeTide
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You can hang up doing things in a more effective way because any Republican will have to fight because of the constant attack they will be under
Reason 874 million to vote for Trump. Already familiar with how the process works and understands the viciousness and the tactics with no learning curve involved. Plus he’s got a pretty strong jaw, can take a beating and continue on. Ain’t no throwing in any towel with the boy. And we all know he throws hell of a jab and has one punch knockout potential at any given time.
Day one of training he’s already in day of fight shape. You want Donald Trump in this situation, if possible and if available and of course if willing. There will come a time soon enough when he will gladly relinquish any further thoughts of running for anything else. You use this while you got it. I thought everyone knew this obvious point. I’m just saying.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 12:06 am
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:04 am to davyjones
If the Republicans are going to have to fight like hell with the media and Dems then we might as well hire the best fighter of the bunch in 2024.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:09 am to Hayekian serf
Trump paved the way and took all the hits for everyone that comes behind him. What he did for this country in waking people up will never be forgotten. He exposed everything during his presidency, from the media to the intelligence agencies to the politicians people thought they could trust…both explicitly and implicitly. That dude took shite that the past 10 presidents combined didn’t take. It was incredible what they did to try and destroy him and still are. I’ve never seen anything like it. The vast majority of people would have broke. He didn’t. He’s also responsible for Ron himself.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 12:10 am
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:13 am to RollingwiththeTide
The question is, do you want Patrick Mahomes leading your team, or do you want Tom Brady leading your team. Can’t really screw that up either way, but for my money I’ll take Brady here. Trump being Brady in this scenario if that wasn’t clear.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:17 am to davyjones
Trump has already cleaned up after Biden once before.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:22 am to RollingwiththeTide
True that. Which may explain why Biden is trashing everything, the jerk off is leaving it as bad off as possible for Trump to have to clean up. That’s actually as good an explanation for the Biden administration’s actions that are pretty much the complete opposite of right as I’ve seen.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 12:24 am
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:24 am to davyjones
One thing Trump is not scared of is a good challenge. He will have plenty of them when he is re-elected.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:30 am to RollingwiththeTide
Having on the job, hands on experience is traditionally believed to be a significant benefit and advantage for one’s résumé. For good reason, of course.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 12:32 am
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:32 am to davyjones
Trumps biggest problem may be to decide where to even start in getting Biden’s mess cleaned up.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:56 am to RollingwiththeTide
Tricky question, and good question. In my politically unpolished mind I opine that it’s between “China” and “the economy” that should be addressed first, noting that there are varying ideas of what those two broad topics entail. But it seems to me that those topics are intrinsically connected, so perhaps it would be addressing both in conjunction with one another. But he’s got the right skill set to swiftly identify the most key areas of problems, and then proposing the quickest and most efficient way to address them. He ain’t afraid to call a meeting with industry leaders and while all together fashion possible actions and remedies. Have we heard of Biden hosting even one “summit” of that nature thus far? I always believed that was when Trump was at his best. Putting heads together with the most relevant people, because what’s better than one guy thinking of solutions than 6 or 7 of the most key folks in the area.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 12:57 am
Posted on 7/31/22 at 1:28 am to xxTIMMYxx
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The only reason not to pick him is they won’t let him win. It’s also wishful thinking that the same shite isn’t going to happen to desantis
Desantis doesn’t seem like he’s shoot himself in both feet. The last year or two of Trumps term were terrible and his campaign against a nonexistent Biden even more so.
I know this board has their heads stuck far, far up Daddy’s arse but for the sake of the country they need to remove it. And if Trump runs again it’s due to pure selfishness. There’s a competent candidate that actually stands a chance of winning a general election because Trump sure as trick isn’t bringing independents over much less even getting some of the Republicans even to pull the lever.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 1:58 am to Herooftheday
ANN COULTER Jan 21, 2022
Our media are obsessed with Donald Trump, but Trump’s obsessed with Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida. Amid the hourly, annoying group emails to Trump’s list — “YOU are one of my TOP supporters!” — there was one from Roger Stone on Nov. 2, 2021, denouncing DeSantis.
The insults sounded a lot like what Trump used to say about Stone: “Ron’s own piss-poor campaign ...,” “without really delivering on his Trump-like rhetoric ...,” “Governor DeSantis has failed ...” and so on.
The title of this diatribe was: “WILL RON DESANTIS TAKE THE PLEDGE?” Can you guess what “the pledge” is? That is correct: not to challenge Trump for president in 2024.
As many Republicans will bitterly recall, Trump has already lost two Senate seats for Republicans in the 2021 Georgia runoffs. So far this year, he’s on track to lose — at least — another Senate race in Georgia, as well as the governor’s mansion.
Sure, thousands of people show up to his heavily advertised rallies, but they’re all the exact same people. His die-hard fans — or, as he calls them, “future Trump University students” — are like Deadheads, following him from venue to venue, dressing up in wild costumes and listening to the same songs.
Trump used his “STOP THE STEAL” fundraising appeals to grift his supporters out of $250 million, none of which was, in fact, used to fight election fraud.
Instead, the $250 million seems to have been funneled exclusively to Trump businesses, family and friends.
And let’s not forget Steve Bannon’s “We Build the Wall” swindle; Trump sending out a fundraising appeal to raise funds for his new private plane; and a Trump-affiliated organization paying Kimberly Guilfoyle $60,000 to give a two-minute speech on Jan. 6 (introducing her fiance, Don Jr.). Every time you think you have your arms fully around Trump’s con, you realize it’s unfathomably more cynical and far-reaching than you could have imagined.
LINK
Our media are obsessed with Donald Trump, but Trump’s obsessed with Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida. Amid the hourly, annoying group emails to Trump’s list — “YOU are one of my TOP supporters!” — there was one from Roger Stone on Nov. 2, 2021, denouncing DeSantis.
The insults sounded a lot like what Trump used to say about Stone: “Ron’s own piss-poor campaign ...,” “without really delivering on his Trump-like rhetoric ...,” “Governor DeSantis has failed ...” and so on.
The title of this diatribe was: “WILL RON DESANTIS TAKE THE PLEDGE?” Can you guess what “the pledge” is? That is correct: not to challenge Trump for president in 2024.
As many Republicans will bitterly recall, Trump has already lost two Senate seats for Republicans in the 2021 Georgia runoffs. So far this year, he’s on track to lose — at least — another Senate race in Georgia, as well as the governor’s mansion.
Sure, thousands of people show up to his heavily advertised rallies, but they’re all the exact same people. His die-hard fans — or, as he calls them, “future Trump University students” — are like Deadheads, following him from venue to venue, dressing up in wild costumes and listening to the same songs.
Trump used his “STOP THE STEAL” fundraising appeals to grift his supporters out of $250 million, none of which was, in fact, used to fight election fraud.
Instead, the $250 million seems to have been funneled exclusively to Trump businesses, family and friends.
And let’s not forget Steve Bannon’s “We Build the Wall” swindle; Trump sending out a fundraising appeal to raise funds for his new private plane; and a Trump-affiliated organization paying Kimberly Guilfoyle $60,000 to give a two-minute speech on Jan. 6 (introducing her fiance, Don Jr.). Every time you think you have your arms fully around Trump’s con, you realize it’s unfathomably more cynical and far-reaching than you could have imagined.
LINK
Posted on 7/31/22 at 2:08 am to Eurocat
I ain’t reading all that jive. And I’m pretty sure I’ve got it pegged anyway. A person who herself makes her relative fortune by figuring out the best way to “swindle” the reading and viewing public out of their common sense and rational thought by way of finding the most instigating material possible, it matters not what the actual conclusions may be, only that it gets the maximum amount of traffic and views.
As it turns out, just so happens that she’s picking a sore bone amongst the right, the hottest of issues, internally speaking. Because Lord knows she isn’t brave enough to scrutinize the endless problems boiling over in the Biden administration, that’s “not cool”. Completely non-credible source here.
As it turns out, just so happens that she’s picking a sore bone amongst the right, the hottest of issues, internally speaking. Because Lord knows she isn’t brave enough to scrutinize the endless problems boiling over in the Biden administration, that’s “not cool”. Completely non-credible source here.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 2:11 am
Posted on 7/31/22 at 2:25 am to davyjones
Davey, don't attack the messenger.
She is saying what right wing people are.
Trump didn't keep most of his key promises, his narcissim kept him from getting the GOP to turn out in the Georgia Senate voting, his unwillingness to tackle issues instead of watching television is historic. And most of the stuff people hate about Covid stoppage (the vaccine, the masks, the restrictions) ALL of that STARTED under Trump.
And he didn't do things he could have.
Don't say congress stopped him. He could have ended Affirmative Action at West Point, Annapolis and Colorado with a pen. First thing, first day.
He could have built a wall declaring a national emergency at the border and building it with the Army Corps of Engineers.
He could have made better appointments. The Moonch? Really? A head diplomat hired because he "looks good"?
He talked the talk but when it came time he didn't DO the stuff he promised.
GOP should think about DeSantis and also Youngkin (remember him?) in Virginia.
And jeez the stuff all these funds are doing now using his name with his okay is fricking shady.
She is saying what right wing people are.
Trump didn't keep most of his key promises, his narcissim kept him from getting the GOP to turn out in the Georgia Senate voting, his unwillingness to tackle issues instead of watching television is historic. And most of the stuff people hate about Covid stoppage (the vaccine, the masks, the restrictions) ALL of that STARTED under Trump.
And he didn't do things he could have.
Don't say congress stopped him. He could have ended Affirmative Action at West Point, Annapolis and Colorado with a pen. First thing, first day.
He could have built a wall declaring a national emergency at the border and building it with the Army Corps of Engineers.
He could have made better appointments. The Moonch? Really? A head diplomat hired because he "looks good"?
He talked the talk but when it came time he didn't DO the stuff he promised.
GOP should think about DeSantis and also Youngkin (remember him?) in Virginia.
And jeez the stuff all these funds are doing now using his name with his okay is fricking shady.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 2:36 am to Eurocat
If by messenger you mean yourself, no I don’t mean to attack you. But I do mean to “attack” Coulter. The way I see it is the formula is this: first one makes a decision to join the anti-Trump faction, all in, AND ONLY THEN backfills with every possible material to build a case for why they find Trump so repugnant. I firmly convinced that this accurately describes at least half of all Trump haters, and a good chunk of them even just joined the club mere months ago, after having all they could take of the constant barrage of vitriol from the contras. I see it as more of a trendy effort by many folks with no real substance.
I don’t get the level of hate personally. Looks to me like most of it is with “his style” which seems mighty shallow to me. All of this is generally speaking, I’m not directing it at you personally.
I don’t get the level of hate personally. Looks to me like most of it is with “his style” which seems mighty shallow to me. All of this is generally speaking, I’m not directing it at you personally.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 2:51 am to oldtimefootball
I'm grateful for the years of good he gave us, and would vote for him anytime anywhere, but Here's a real reason he shouldn't run in 2024.
Trump should not run in 2024 because by 2024 people have been propagandized for nearly a decade into thinking he is the worst person in the world.
They kicked the propaganda into high gear in 2016. Here it is in 2022 and they still can't shut the frick up about him. It will be the same in 2024.
The problem is... the MSM campaign against him was successful. A large portion of people have a belief in orange man bad, and that belief is to the point where they will believe it until they themselves die.
You can refute, show the proofs, tell them to look around at the country collapsing in real time etc.. logic doesn't matter anymore. Many many americans have been thoroughly propagandized and they aren't coming back.
And God forbid people admit they are wrong in the 2020s. And voting for donald trump in 2024 would be doing exactly that - admitting they were wrong.
That said there was one thing Trump was good at and that was international diplomacy. Despite the globalists' opinion of him (he ended up being right about everything, of course) We had all kinds of shite about to blow up in 2016 to those who remember, ISIS was still rolling strong, syria was a powderkeg waiting to go off, islamic terror was still a thing -- all shite he handled without getting us embroiled into some BS war.
Trump should not run in 2024 because by 2024 people have been propagandized for nearly a decade into thinking he is the worst person in the world.
They kicked the propaganda into high gear in 2016. Here it is in 2022 and they still can't shut the frick up about him. It will be the same in 2024.
The problem is... the MSM campaign against him was successful. A large portion of people have a belief in orange man bad, and that belief is to the point where they will believe it until they themselves die.
You can refute, show the proofs, tell them to look around at the country collapsing in real time etc.. logic doesn't matter anymore. Many many americans have been thoroughly propagandized and they aren't coming back.
And God forbid people admit they are wrong in the 2020s. And voting for donald trump in 2024 would be doing exactly that - admitting they were wrong.
That said there was one thing Trump was good at and that was international diplomacy. Despite the globalists' opinion of him (he ended up being right about everything, of course) We had all kinds of shite about to blow up in 2016 to those who remember, ISIS was still rolling strong, syria was a powderkeg waiting to go off, islamic terror was still a thing -- all shite he handled without getting us embroiled into some BS war.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 2:58 am
Posted on 7/31/22 at 2:59 am to USMCguy121
Are you sure there are still any people who are vulnerable to these malicious efforts by the left? I figured by this point pretty much everyone has heard the claims of propaganda and countless instances of blatantly fake news, thus pretty much everyone has come to their conclusions…..either they don’t care, pretend like it ain’t true, and rides with the left no matter what; or they find it insulting that the left presumed they were so dumb that they’d never figure it out, writing the left or MSM for good.
Surely everyone’s “picked a side” by now and there remains hardly any “independent” folks who are willing to hear them out. The jig’s been up for some time now.
Surely everyone’s “picked a side” by now and there remains hardly any “independent” folks who are willing to hear them out. The jig’s been up for some time now.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:13 am to sta4ever
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It’s time to move on people.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:22 am to USMCguy121
You nailed it. The only goal in 2024 right now is to remove the communists from the White House. Trump is one of the worst options to achieve this objective. There’s a lot of complaining in this thread about how Trump knows the ropes and that’s why he’s the best option for another term but that’s a misdirection. I’m of the opinion that DC is beyond saving and the best hope now is to delay the inevitable collapse. I do not think desantis, Trump, or anyone is saving this rotten corpse of a government. We need the person that gives us the best chance of removing this awful totalitarian regime and that person is absolutely not Donald Trump.
As an aside, I don’t think Trump has learned a thing about his failures in his term and he will achieve very little to nothing if given a second chance. He’s great at foreign policy which would be welcome again but he will not solve any of the major domestic issues at all.
As an aside, I don’t think Trump has learned a thing about his failures in his term and he will achieve very little to nothing if given a second chance. He’s great at foreign policy which would be welcome again but he will not solve any of the major domestic issues at all.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:22 am to davyjones
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Looks to me like most of it is with “his style” which seems mighty shallow to me.
If someone repeatedly shows you that they're a shitty leader, it's a little difficult to ascribe mistrust to "style."
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