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re: Trump Says He Never Promised No New Wars, and Defends Compensation Fund

Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36343 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:04 pm to
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So what tense is “I’m going to keep you out of wars” and “we will expel the warmongers


Do either of those mean “I promise you no new wars” in your native tongue because in English they most certainly do not.
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
2369 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:17 pm to
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even the most staunch Trump supporters are admitting this was a mistake


Pains me to do so (but I have to) as I’ve been a huge supporter of Trump. This is just a no-win situation…well no-win for us regular folks. The power elites/M.I.C. are eating this $hit up.
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174438 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:32 pm to
It's one of the reasons most people supported Trump. I think he is a fool but I don't think he was deliberately abandoning his base. He thought this would be a quick operation. It appears he was wrong. But he does seem to be the only person in the room that wants peace. We should want him to succeed in that endeavor.
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
2369 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:41 pm to
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He thought this would be a quick operation. It appears he was wrong.


Yep, Venezuela was too easy and misleading. Iran ain’t Venezuela.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9282 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:48 pm to
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Do either of those mean “I promise you no new wars” in your native tongue because in English they most certainly do not.


Are you seriously that stupid and/or delusional to think that “I’m going to keep you out of wars” doesn’t include not starting new wars?? I mean this is next level stupid. Even for the cult.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36343 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:07 am to
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Are you seriously that stupid and/or delusional to think that “I’m going to keep you out of wars” doesn’t include not starting new wars?? I mean this is next level stupid. Even for the cult.


Words have meanings.
If we get into 1 war but there was potential to be involved with 5, Trump has kept us out of 4 wars.
That is not the same as, I promise not to start any wars.
Please try and pay attention to what is said and not what you want to hear.

Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9282 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:23 am to
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Words have meanings. If we get into 1 war but there was potential to be involved with 5, Trump has kept us out of 4 wars. That is not the same as, I promise not to start any wars.


What kind of idiocy is this. It’s too stupid to even be serious. But something tells me you are. Please make sure you get help if you have to cross the street or wipe your arse.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174438 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:38 am to
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Yep, Venezuela was too easy and misleading. Iran ain’t Venezuel

And as a big critic I will happily support him if he finds a peaceful way out if this. That would be his greatest achievement.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36343 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:46 am to
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What kind of idiocy is this. It’s too stupid to even be serious. But something tells me you are. Please make sure you get help if you have to cross the street or wipe your arse.


I’m sure not understanding the English language is very frustrating for you.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47929 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 4:28 am to
There’s ample evidence of the CA election being rigged.

Stop this gaslighting crap now.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14052 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:45 am to
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Why do morons gotta compartmentalize every fricking thing, so they don't have a breakdown?

Trump did what he did...after campaigning directly against these actions. Got nothing to do with apples, a previous president, foreign policy, price of tea, etc.

Hes a fricking liar and is exactly like every other moron who's sat in that chair, after lying during campaign, and does exactly what they promised they wouldn't.

I'm sorry that hurts you so badly, you'd rather not admit the truth. It doesn't make you a Democrat, it doesn't make you a liberal, it doesn't make you anything...except an honest human.

WE GAIN NOTHING BY THIS bullshite....ZEE fricking Row

We could easily have simply sent a bomber over, once a year, and hit the uranium site again


Is that a yes?

And btw, this is zero self-awareness comedy gold:
quote:

Why do morons gotta compartmentalize every fricking thing
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6811 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:47 am to
Don't need self awareness when you're honest. Truth hurts kid
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16510 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:06 pm to
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Are you able to see anything but Hitler when it comes to Trump?


You avoided the question so we can guess where you stand. And it’s clear you mad.

I’m totally non partisan when it comes to truth.

I will never vote for a liberal.
I voted for trump but what he’s doing this term is not what I voted for.


Are you the type that only watched the news that agrees with you?

Do you root against America when a democrat is president?
Do you wish for economic struggles when a democrat is president?

Be honest
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 1:01 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16510 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:09 pm to
I truly believe in truth

It makes no sense to bury your head in the sand when it comes to news. Look for honesty.

I have never been a fanboy of Trump but certainly voted for him. I would never ignore or whitewash over any decisions by Trump that I don’t agree with though. Trump was just the lesser of evils and it wasn’t really close. That’s the sad truth that we get presented when it comes to elections. It’s not what you want- it’s what “they” want.

This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16510 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:19 pm to
Robin you seem like the kind of person that keeps a very narrow focus and the center of that focus is Trump. Is it like a man crush or just a political ideology that you love?

Are you the type that roots for America only when Trump is president?
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3249 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:57 pm to
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“Why would I have built the strongest military in the world?”
Sho is a lot of “I” and not “We” in his leadership style.

I doubt General Mattis would have ever made a statement like this. Or Reagan.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14052 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:28 pm to
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Don't need self awareness when you're honest.




What a moronic thing to say.

Honest people answer questions honestly instead of avoiding them.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174438 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:34 pm to
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If we get into 1 war but there was potential to be involved with 5, Trump has kept us out of 4 wars.

That's a pretty low threshold for success
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14052 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:49 pm to
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I’m sure not understanding the English language is very frustrating for you.


Understand this:

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In fact, Trump repeatedly promised in 2024 that the US would not have any wars during his second presidency. Though it’s true that he often deployed some nuance on the subject – for example, vowing to end “endless” wars or prevent “World War III” – he unequivocally pledged on other occasions that the US wouldn’t get involved in wars, period.

Here are some examples

In a June 2024 social media post, Trump described the election as “a choice between STRENGTH or WEAKNESS, COMPETENCE or INCOMPETENCE, peace and prosperity or war and no war.” Then, in one of the highest-profile speeches of the campaign, his July 2024 address to the Republican National Convention, he said, “With our victory in November, the years of war, weakness, and chaos will be over. I don’t have wars.”

He made the promise even more directly during an August 2024 rally speech in the swing state of Pennsylvania, saying: “Under Trump, we will have no more wars, no more disruptions, and we will have prosperity and peace for all.”

Trump reprised the pledge in an August 2024 interview with Adin Ross, an online personality popular with young men. After saying there were no wars during his first administration, he promised, “And we won’t have wars again.” (Expressing concern about the final months of the Biden administration, he added, “But we could have a war before we even get there. That’s the problem.”)

At a rally that month in another hotly contested state, North Carolina, Trump approvingly cited Viktor Orbán, then the prime minister of Hungary, as supposedly having said, “Make sure that Trump gets re-elected president and you’re not going to have any more wars.” The audience applauded; Trump himself reiterated moments later, “No more wars. No more disruptions. We will have prosperity and we will have peace.”

Trump told versions of the Orbán story at numerous other events. For example, in the swing state of Wisconsin in October 2024, he said, “Viktor Orbán said, ‘If Trump comes back, you won’t have any wars. You won’t have any wars.’ And he’s about as tough as they get, and he said it loud and clear and he said why. But you won’t have any wars.”

Trump made a clear promise that he would not start a war even in his victory address in November 2024, when he no longer had to persuade voters to elect him. He said in that high-profile speech: “Four years, we had no wars, except we defeated ISIS. … They said, ‘He will start a war.’ I’m not going to start a war, I’m going to stop wars.”

Other Trump comments were less clear
It is true that Trump’s 2024 campaign rhetoric about war was often at least slightly more nuanced – or, less generously, slightly more muddled.

At one prominent event, an October 2024 rally at Madison Square Garden in New York City, he confusingly bounced back and forth between promising there would be no new US wars if he became president again and saying that war could happen.

“We sort of need (domestically manufactured) steel in this country. Like, we’re not going to go to war with me as your president. But if we – on the long shot that we do, we don’t want to say, ‘We need steel. Can we get it from China? Or can we get it from someplace else?’ You know, it’s always a possibility. But I will tell you, you’re not going to have a war with me, and you’re not going to have a third World War with me,” he said. “That I can tell you.”

In June 2024 remarks to young supporters in the swing state of Arizona, he said, “So we are going to make sure there’s no wars.” But then he arguably backtracked a little, saying, “We don’t want to have wars. I call them endless wars. I call them wars where people don’t even want us involved.”

At various other moments during the campaign, Trump pledged to end “endless” wars or prevent “World War III”; that’s not quite the same as saying he would avoid all wars. He also made a variety of comments that sounded broadly anti-war but didn’t include overt assurances not to involve the US in any future wars. For example, he said the country doesn’t “need” wars, denounced “warmongers,” pledged to be a “peacemaker,” and frequently boasted that he had no wars in his first term (sometimes citing the inherited fight against ISIS as the one exception).

People can have a reasonable debate about whether these kinds of comments were likely to be interpreted by some voters as a promise not to get the country involved in wars in a second term. For the purpose of debunking Trump’s “I didn’t promise anything” claim to NBC, though, the debate is irrelevant – because, again, the record shows that Trump explicitly made a no-future-wars promise multiple times.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6811 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:03 pm to
I avoided nothing, clown.

Trump lied. I'm a supporter, but doesn't mean I'm deaf or stupid. He lied and now doubles down so blind morons like yourself will accept his being a weak bitch on Iran
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