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re: Trump: “Ron Desantis is a Reagan Republican”
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:00 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:00 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
You are the Kasich supporter.
Nope.
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:He sees this as an insult?
Ron Desantis is a Reagan Republican
Just proves that he is still a Dem at heart.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
lsuguy84: “HHTM is a cuck piece of shite”
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Nope.
Good for you. Whatever your opinion of Trump, that clown made Trump look like a fountain of integrity.
But you were. We have the receipts: the internet never forgets.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:37 pm to lsuguy84
quote:
lsuguy84: “HHTM is a cuck piece of shite”
quote:
If you read the attached Trump is implying he WAS a Reagan Republican and is now sold out to the donors and become a Rino.
But the "deceiving headline" well is just that intentionally deceiving.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:41 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
But you were.
Yep. And when he didn't represent my views, I moved on.
That's not exactly what you'd expect from a cult.
But, you don't really have a choice but to stay, do you?
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:51 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Just proves that he is still a Dem at heart.
Ronald Reagan Was a New Deal Conservative….
Reagan never had a problem saying that he believed it was society’s obligation to take care of its weaker members. He did not have a problem saying that free trade works both ways, and that government should step in to protect American jobs when unfair competition threatened. He did not have a problem saying that no one should be denied needed medical care because of a lack of funds, and that government had a role in helping those people out.
He did not have a problem saying those things, because in his heart he loved the average American. America was not great for him because it enabled great men to rise, although he admired men and women who showed ingenuity and initiative. America was great because it provided a home to let all people live free and dignified lives.
In his youth, tutored by his parents and his times, he found the answer to those beliefs in Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal. Government intervention and action seemed to be what Roosevelt told Americans it was, new means to implement old, traditional American values. In the world that existed before the New Deal—where a man could be fired for joining a labor union, or be left penniless if he lost his job, because there was no unemployment insurance—it was surely easy for Reagan, as it was for many millions of others, to see the New Deal as restoring an individual’s freedom and dignity if he lacked bargaining power with his employer.
When that era’s conservatives said the world’s problems were none of our concern even as Nazi Germany marched and Imperial Japan sailed to wage wars of conquest, it was easy to see Roosevelt’s Democrats as both the voice and the arsenal of democracy. If the Democratic Party had stopped there, Reagan probably would have remained a Democrat all his life.
Starting with Henry Wallace’s Progressive Party, some New Dealers believed America needed to be transformed, its individualist culture tamed to march to the beat of a centralized plan. Those who wanted a planned society also found it difficult to find communism as horrific or as threatening as did Reagan. For if America itself is something to be replaced, how can a regime whose central tenet was that America was inherently immoral, something to be loathed?
But as the Democratic Party left Reagan, he did not leave his core beliefs behind. His new conservatism did not pine for the days when men were men and employers could treat workers like beasts. He was against losing freedom by installments; he was against the rule of the many by the self-appointed few no matter what form that rule took. But he was also for human dignity. He was also for treating human beings with the respect they deserved and for giving each and every one of them a real fighting chance to live a decent life. He was for using government, when necessary, to accomplish these goals.
Barry Goldwater wrote in The Conscience of a Conservative that “the Conservative’s first concern will always be: Are we maximizing freedom?” But Ronald Reagan could tell Americans in his famous speech endorsing Barry Goldwater that conservatives were for Social Security, even though that curtailed the freedom of a person to, as Goldwater wrote, “be free throughout their lives to spend their earnings as they see fit.” He could say that conservatives were for telling senior citizens that no one should be denied medical care because of a lack of funds, even though that takes money “from fellow citizens who may have different ideas about their social obligations,” against Goldwater’s beliefs.
In short, Reagan was against returning to the America before the New Deal. He was for interpreting Roosevelt’s legacy in a way that maximized freedom and minimized bureaucratic control and the direction of Americans’ lives….
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:56 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yep. And when he didn't represent my views, I moved on. That's not exactly what you'd expect from a cult.
The cult comment was tongue in cheek. I don’t actually think you are a retard or a cultist for voting for Kasich. Just a hypocrite for continuing to call out Trump’ supporters as being retarded cultists.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:06 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Your views are shite. You’re a stupid mouth-breathing retard who should be mocked. Just shut the frick up.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:23 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Just a hypocrite for continuing to call out Trump’ supporters as being retarded cultists.
Not all of them.
Just a lot of them.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm still holding out hope for Trump/DeSantis 2024 followed by 8 years of President DeSantis.
Four years in DC's deep state swamp would be a good way for VP DeSantis to learn snake charming.
Four years in DC's deep state swamp would be a good way for VP DeSantis to learn snake charming.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:31 pm to lsuguy84
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Your views are shite. You’re a stupid mouth-breathing retard who should be mocked. Just shut the frick up.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:35 pm to lsuguy84
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lsuguy84: “HHTM is a cuck piece of shite”
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:02 pm to deeprig9
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During the Reagan era, Trump was a democrat.
Why would make up a lie?
Trump has only been a DIM for the 8 years of the GWB presidency. He obviously knew something then, that took the rest of us a few years to find out
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:06 pm to Fat Bastard
He doesn’t get it bro. Wait until he posts Nickleback memes at you
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:09 pm to 93and99
Never ending parade of excuses for Bolton, Graham, Ryan, etc.
Trump IS the caricature he's trying to make DeSantis into
Trump IS the caricature he's trying to make DeSantis into
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:10 pm to RobbBobb
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Why would make up a lie?
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RobbBobb
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:11 pm to Pettifogger
Desantis is cozying up to the same people. Just stop.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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DisplacedBuckeye
Hey you stupid old piece of shite
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 8:15 pm
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