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re: Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son

Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476900 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Do you think Biden didn't know that the prosecutor was investigating a company of which his son Hunter was a board member?

quote:

I don't think he did.

how fricking dumb do you think Biden is?

serious question
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6557 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:11 pm to
If Trump wanted this Tom Hagen Barr would of already done it.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115447 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:11 pm to
So

fricking

What?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:11 pm to
You are trying so hard to sound honest and neutral and its hilarious.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53726 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:12 pm to
If this is true it makes me so happy, if they're innocent they have nothing to hide or fear right? The left criminalized politics, let's do it
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68453 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:12 pm to
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We don't know that there weren't other ways, outside of this call, for Trump/Guiliani to let Ukraine know their intention with the funds.


This is called speculation, class.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

the Obama admin were pressuring the prosecutor to prosecute more corruption in the Ukraine, not less.

Isn't that what Trump is doing?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

how fricking dumb do you think Biden is?

Standard liberalism.

They REALLY think the stupidity defense is superior to the "well, yeah......we did it" defense.

Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
2130 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

I don't think he did.



Mamet Principle on full display here
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6252 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:14 pm to
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What's ironic is that Biden was pushing for the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor because he wasn't doing enough to prosecute corruption there.
Yeah, that's why.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:14 pm to
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Isn't that what Trump is doing?


No, it's significantly different when you ask for an investigation into a specific person, vs a type of crime.

Then add on the fact that it would benefit his campaign against Biden and you have an abuse of power.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74190 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:14 pm to
If trump had publically bragged about getting a foreign prosecutor fired who was investigating a matter his son was partially involved with, tigerinDC09 would be singing a completely different tune.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Comey Repeatedly Pressed FISA to Investigate Donald Trump

See what I did there?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

quote:
the Obama admin were pressuring the prosecutor to prosecute more corruption in the Ukraine, not less.


Isn't that what Trump is doing?


No, he's telling him to investigate someone specifically... the son of his political opponent... that's an unethical abuse of power.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

No, it's significantly different when you ask for an investigation into a specific person, vs a type of crime.

Then add on the fact that it would benefit his campaign against Biden and you have an abuse of power.




I'll give you this... you do make a good water carrier.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476900 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

If trump had publically bragged about getting a foreign prosecutor fired who was investigating a matter his son was partially involved with, tigerinDC09 would be singing a completely different tune.


DC won't even respond to me about Australia and the UK and their role in Russia-gate

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:17 pm to
Right. It's fun to frick with him though.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

No, it's significantly different when you ask for an investigation into a specific person, vs a type of crime. Then add on the fact that it would benefit his campaign against Biden and you have an abuse of power.

I love the fact that you make this a HUGE deal but straight up ignored when the DNC and Hillary's campaign went to Ukraine to dig up dirt and investigate Trump and Manafort.

Look at your double standard

LINK
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:17 pm to
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No, he's telling him to investigate someone specifically... the son of his political opponent... that's an unethical abuse of power.


So, was it an unethical abuse of power when Biden told them to STOP investigating someone specifically?
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:18 pm to
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o, it's significantly different when you ask for an investigation into a specific person, vs a type of crime.

How do you know the specifics of the obama administration request for additional investigations? Individuals could have been targeted as well.

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hen add on the fact that it would benefit his campaign against Biden and you have an abuse of power.

More likely to help Warren and Sanders.
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