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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:49 am to Figgy
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Look, I think there was some bullshite going down early in the morning. But if Trump were able to have held onto some of the defections he experienced, and not alienated potential voters then the cheat would’ve been much more difficult to pull off.
This. Zero question that they cheated, but ballot harvesting isn't absolute and you can beat it with a big enough margin. You shouldn't have to, and hopefully there will be less of it this time around, but that's reality. For sheer electability DeSantis looks like he has an edge right now. A lot can change in a year, but right now I think his chances of beating a Dem are better than Trump's. He'll lose some Trump loyalists who want to stay home and pout but I think they'll be more than offset by people who realize that the Dems suck but they just won't vote for Trump no matter how bad the current idiot is.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:50 am to AU86
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He will get thrashed in the general election. Trump has hurt himself badly and has lost support big time.
Yep
Odds are he would turn Texas blue
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:54 am to El Segundo Guy
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Trump has turned into a crybaby bitch.
Ron won't run. And thus you will vote for a crybaby bitch.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:55 am to El Segundo Guy
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Trump has turned into a crybaby bitch.
He always was. Obviously.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:03 am to Flats
Exactly - elections are imperfect at best and there is always going to be some questionable ballots. Go back and read about the election of 1960 which was basically stolen from Nixon. Or the 2000 election which broke in the Republicans favor.
If Trump's negatives weren't so bad maybe he wouldn't have such a small margin of error.
If Trump's negatives weren't so bad maybe he wouldn't have such a small margin of error.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:06 am to Langland
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And thus you will vote for a crybaby bitch.
Those aren't the only options.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:15 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Every word he said are FACTS.
You may like him, but DeSantis is clearly aligned with the Paul Ryan’s of the uniparty. They are trying to sell him as “Trump policies but not Trump”. And the media is on board full tilt.
Think about that. Why is that all coordinated? then DeSantis is supposed to be some golden child that’s untouchable? Can’t talk about him? People need to get over it. Trump can call out globalists and this board cheers, call out the newest to the club and y’all can’t understand why Trump would do it.
Truth is Truth. You either want to fix DC or you keep the status quo. There is no point on Trump running again if he’s going to tip toe around calling out Facts.
You may like him, but DeSantis is clearly aligned with the Paul Ryan’s of the uniparty. They are trying to sell him as “Trump policies but not Trump”. And the media is on board full tilt.
Think about that. Why is that all coordinated? then DeSantis is supposed to be some golden child that’s untouchable? Can’t talk about him? People need to get over it. Trump can call out globalists and this board cheers, call out the newest to the club and y’all can’t understand why Trump would do it.
Truth is Truth. You either want to fix DC or you keep the status quo. There is no point on Trump running again if he’s going to tip toe around calling out Facts.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:20 am to 14&Counting
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Exactly - elections are imperfect at best and there is always going to be some questionable ballots.
I think 2020 went well beyond that, but I also said a few days after the election that it didn't matter. It was never going to be overturned after more than a day or two because that's getting into "too big to fail" territory.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:22 am to TigerAttorney
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And the media is on board full tilt.
Do a search with the terms "Ron DeSantis supremacist". They may hate him less than Trump but they still hate him.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:25 am to TigerAttorney
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You may like him, but DeSantis is clearly aligned with the Paul Ryan’s of the uniparty.
This is literally the only retort any of you have, which ultimately comes down to "he isn't Trump."
I don't give a shite who supports DeSantis. I care about results and he's been killing it in Florida, while Trump fell on his face for the last 6 years.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:35 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
You can smell the fear coming off of Trump.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:42 am to tigerfoot
Trump is trying to run the same campaign he did in 2016. He's recycling the script. But I don't think it's going to work. It doesn't have the same "shock" value as it did when he was the surprise candidate.
I mean the guy has already been president. All he needs to campaign on is his experience and the success of the economy before covid hit. If he does that, he stays out of his own way.
I mean the guy has already been president. All he needs to campaign on is his experience and the success of the economy before covid hit. If he does that, he stays out of his own way.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:43 am to TomBuchanan
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DeSantis has had large donations from globalists If people don't care then ok
You people with this globalist shite are as dumb as the Progressives and their racial narratives.
Every fricking person on this board is a globalist.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:50 am to TigerAttorney
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You may like him, but DeSantis is clearly aligned with the Paul Ryan’s of the uniparty.
He's governed nothing like Paul Ryan would. Only Trumpers are just throwing shite against the wall hoping it'll stick
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Why did trump choose to endorse a globalist for governor?
Because it would have been worse if the radical Dem had won in Florida. If you recall the left tried to steal that election too but were’t able to. At the time Ron was the right choice for Florida and didn’t have aspirations of running for POTUS. Had the Dim won then FL would have never fixed their election system either. And would be a blue state from frauded elections.
Trumo was key to Ron winning. Ron has not been vetted like Trump and once his skelatons come out all the Ron bandwagoners will jump ship.
Notice how the leftist press knows Trump is the real threat as they keep pressing him and not Ron. That should tell you something. If Ron was as good as Trump they would be all over Ron with bad press but they’re not, they keep hammering Trump. And the sheeple are eating up the Ron is our saviour crap too. The left has gotten to a lot of conservatives by their 24/7/365 anti Trump campaign.
Ron is good for Florida but not good for America. At least not yet. In due time we’ll see his true colors and the next year will likely show some of them. Look at some other darling pubs that were supposed to be great and softened up once exposed. Ron is just the newest flavor. But to fight the deep state will take courage and only Trump has that right now (to be POTUS).
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:08 pm to OU Guy
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Trumo was key to Ron winning.
He was key to DeSantis winning the primary against the GOPe candidate. He wasn't much of a factor in the general election against Gillum.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:09 pm to OU Guy
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Trumo was key to Ron winning.
The first time DeSantis won, it was within the margins of polling. Without Trump hanging around, he won by 20 points.
This "Trump made DeSantis" garbage needs to go away.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Trump is right.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:19 pm to TomBuchanan
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DeSantis has had large donations from globalists If people don't care then ok
Most on this board will back him and not admit that he’s a globalist, or at least has globalist handlers. Just like they ignored globalism before Trump
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