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re: Trump Poised To Try To Remove Noncitizens From Census
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:48 am to Night Vision
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:48 am to Night Vision
The fact that our dumbass legislatures allowed them to be counted is just another prong in the fraud fork like all the mail in ballots.
This is how California keeps their representatives.
This is how California keeps their representatives.
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:48 am to SlowFlowPro
Well that's a problem
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:48 am to TrueTiger
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Yep. They count everyone.
Back in the day some only counted for 3/5ths.
Yes and this is going to be a major issue for the "The Founders didn't comprehend this" argument, as the OG Founders 100% comprehended non-citizens counting in representation. Also, the 14A itself uses "persons" and "citizens" for specific purposes.
The second Trump admin is likely going to lead to a lot of important case law regarding the 14A, ultimately.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:50 am to SlowFlowPro
This will go to the supreme court
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:50 am to Night Vision
Count them because we need to know how many of them are out there, but do not factor them into how many house seats a state gets, or any other resources available from the federal government based on population.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:51 am to SantaFe
Paul and Massie will vote against it.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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The Supreme Court, since it's Constitutional analysis/interpretation.
The Trump Administration will likely lose in this situation but it's a fight worth having. It can go one of two ways after losing.
1. A political ground swell happens such that representatives get off their arse and finally replace "persons" with citizens.
2. America gets overwhelmed with foreigners and the U.S. balkanizes decades from now.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:54 am to GumboPot
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1. A political ground swell happens such that representatives get off their arse and finally replace "persons" with citizens.
That's almost assuredly going to be required.
I just looked and the 14A uses "citizens" 5 times and person(s) 5 times.
It's going to be very difficult to argue the writers of the 14A didn't understand the difference in "citizen" and "person".
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:57 am to GumboPot
Imminent too.
For instance, Bondi, Patel, and Bongino are prepared to issue a record number of indictments for election fraud from the 2020 election, child sex trafficking charges from the Epstein video and audio tapes, and RICO charges for collusion between the media, judicial branch, and the intelligence community. The indictments are said to be imminent, according to unnamed sources.
For instance, Bondi, Patel, and Bongino are prepared to issue a record number of indictments for election fraud from the 2020 election, child sex trafficking charges from the Epstein video and audio tapes, and RICO charges for collusion between the media, judicial branch, and the intelligence community. The indictments are said to be imminent, according to unnamed sources.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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Also, the 14A itself uses "persons" and "citizens" for specific purposes.
The second Trump admin is likely going to lead to a lot of important case law regarding the 14A, ultimately.
Is there a due process right to be counted?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:00 am to Deplorableinohio
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Imminent too.
I hope you know why I'm laughing.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:01 am to Tunasntigers92
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Non-citizens were a part of the census?
I'm surprised northerners don't want them only counted as only 3/5 of a person like they insisted for blacks.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:01 am to Tunasntigers92
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Non-citizens were a part of the census?
Yep - Now you know why Biden and the Democrats imported 15 million illegal in this country
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:16 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Is there a due process right to be counted?
I don't think so. The relevant portion of 14A is independent of the DP portion.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:37 am to Tunasntigers92
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Non-citizens were a part of the census?
Yeah brah... Where you been?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:38 am to BTROleMisser
I been around
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:38 am to jlc05
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Yes. And no they should not determine the number of house seats based on illegal immigrants who can't vote. This needs to be killed and codified.
Trump 45 tried this and was unsuccessful
That was before four years of Biden and tens of millions of illegals pouring in through the southern border, who were then paid thousands of dollars a month by tax payers to do nothing.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:40 am to Night Vision
LHG 
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 8:41 am
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:41 am to FATBOY TIGER
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Paul and Massie will vote against it.
Yup. Like the "principled" Liberaltarians they are.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 8:43 am
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:44 am to BTROleMisser
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That was before four years of Biden and tens of millions of illegals pouring in through the southern border
Exigency does not change the text of thuy Constitution
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